7 minutes ago, WBBFanWest said:

I'm quite sure our head coach has repeatedly said that everyone on our team is a starter.   So are you calling O'Shea a liar?

I am.....and about the  "that they here cause they give us a chance to win when they need to step in"

If you only realistically have a chance to win with only your starter(s) you have a seriously flawed roster.....or no depth....or really poor coaching....or all of the above or a combo of several.....Thats just a ludicrous statement because with that logic the Argo's should have lost....so why did they win then??

Edited January 14, 20251 yr by Booch

I mean if a starter goes down i don't doubt that oshea has complete faith in his backups.... problem comes in when you start to figure out that "goes down" means something different to oshea than you or I. For oshea it's something like "is he breathing? Then he can play"

On 2025-01-14 at 2:00 PM, WBBFanWest said:

I'm quite sure our head coach has repeatedly said that everyone on our team is a starter.   So are you calling O'Shea a liar

Yes...and I wouldn't expect any HC to publicly say anything else.

Edited January 16, 20251 yr by GCn20

On 2025-01-14 at 4:24 PM, 17to85 said:

I mean if a starter goes down i don't doubt that oshea has complete faith in his backups.... problem comes in when you start to figure out that "goes down" means something different to oshea than you or I. For oshea it's something like "is he breathing? Then he can play"

sure he does...stated time after time "they in the building cause they give us a chance to win"..."they are all number ones"...."we like what he brings".....total bullcrap.....as he does not deploy them as such.....

On 2025-01-14 at 3:24 PM, 17to85 said:

I mean if a starter goes down i don't doubt that oshea has complete faith in his backups.... problem comes in when you start to figure out that "goes down" means something different to oshea than you or I. For oshea it's something like "is he breathing? Then he can play"

That's not far off from reality with some players.

Zach couldn’t grip the ball. I mean the year b4 Bighill played using a walker  

 

we’ve seen it. 

14 minutes ago, Goalie said:

Zach couldn’t grip the ball. I mean the year b4 Bighill played using a walker  

 

we’ve seen it. 

you forgot that same yr Schoen and Bailey could not run...and Demski could barely....But Bolo sat on sideline all Grey Cup..took zero snaps...and said eff this I outta here over the winter

Yr prior...ZC could not move....plant to throw....and was basically at 50% uefulness.....2025 gonna be more the same horseshit sadly

14 hours ago, Booch said:

you forgot that same yr Schoen and Bailey could not run...and Demski could barely....But Bolo sat on sideline all Grey Cup..took zero snaps...and said eff this I outta here over the winter

Yr prior...ZC could not move....plant to throw....and was basically at 50% uefulness.....2025 gonna be more the same horseshit sadly

Especially with the deadwood on the roster we keep re-signing & actually passing them off as players who can actually still contribute. 

Its the same old song that's been killing Bomber fans since the kick in 22 went wrong...........

Thomas will get big time reps again because Osh just thinks he's great and thats that

Even with Lawson back,,,,it won't change

Thomas out snapped him as well in 2023....and even tho everytime he got reps he just made playsandr caused issues to allow others to make plays but he got parked behind Thomas...why would Osh change...he is allergic to change anything especially if it is one of his favorites

Based on who we have prioritized this winter already, I will be shocked if Biggie is not signed again...Vet Canadians require bigger bucks.....it's a matter of where you decide to put those vets and what bang for buck they will give you.

No slight on Augustine...Benson...Gauthier...Hallett (always injured Hallett i mean) served us well...still can offer something but really a younger guy at less SMS hit can offer basically what they can give you now....possibly more

Lat yr we moved on from Briggs, but that was more of Briggs wanting to move on...the yr previous he was gonna but came back for one more kick of the can, and you know damn well if he didnt wanna retire we would be re-upping him again for a higher salary...as a guy like Kelly would not see roster 

Edited January 17, 20251 yr by Booch

What if Biggie signs a deal with a low base salary and more focused on bonuses for time played + stats.   Would that be the only way we should bring him back?   Or is he so shot that the team shouldn't even waste a spot for him on the roster even if he is paid little to nothing. 

1 hour ago, Brandon said:

Or is he so shot that the team shouldn't even waste a spot for him on the roster even if he is paid little to nothing. 

This. 

Guy is not nearly effective enough anymore.

3 hours ago, Brandon said:

What if Biggie signs a deal with a low base salary and more focused on bonuses for time played + stats.   Would that be the only way we should bring him back?   Or is he so shot that the team shouldn't even waste a spot for him on the roster even if he is paid little to nothing. 

The truth is that Bighill, Jake Thomas, Brandon Alexander and Kolankowski are blocking the developmental path for better, younger (and cheaper) players. But all this has been said ad nauseum.

I am 100 percent certain Biggie wont be ready until at least Labour Day at earliest...so realy that alone should take him out of the discussion...and if we lockhim up and allot money to him.....Osh and Walters should be shot...as thats just stupidity

2 hours ago, Booch said:

I am 100 percent certain Biggie wont be ready until at least Labour Day at earliest...so realy that alone should take him out of the discussion...and if we lockhim up and allot money to him.....Osh and Walters should be shot...as thats just stupidity

Could you see them signing him and placing him on IR until healthy and at that point they give him his old spot back?   Use a scrub in the mean time until he is ready?

Tony Jones is no scrub.

3 hours ago, Noeller said:

Tony Jones is no scrub.

He won't take his job back from Jones either when he returns, if nobody picks him up it give both sides time to determine if he has a future in the organization.  If not would he even stay in Wpg?  I think not.

On 2025-01-17 at 5:35 AM, Booch said:

Thomas will get big time reps again because Osh just thinks he's great and thats that

Even with Lawson back,,,,it won't change

Thomas out snapped him as well in 2023....and even tho everytime he got reps he just made playsandr caused issues to allow others to make plays but he got parked behind Thomas...why would Osh change...he is allergic to change anything especially if it is one of his favorites

Based on who we have prioritized this winter already, I will be shocked if Biggie is not signed again...Vet Canadians require bigger bucks.....it's a matter of where you decide to put those vets and what bang for buck they will give you.

No slight on Augustine...Benson...Gauthier...Hallett (always injured Hallett i mean) served us well...still can offer something but really a younger guy at less SMS hit can offer basically what they can give you now....possibly more

Lat yr we moved on from Briggs, but that was more of Briggs wanting to move on...the yr previous he was gonna but came back for one more kick of the can, and you know damn well if he didnt wanna retire we would be re-upping him again for a higher salary...as a guy like Kelly would not see roster 

I think the replacement for Benson is Leroux and he's been re-signed. So I'm expecting that transition.  Augustine still adds value but I think I'd prefer a younger player on an ELC to fit his role which is primarily an ST player. I don't believe he would be the primary RB is Oliveria is injured longer than an in game situation. To that end, I expect an import RB on the PR or possibly one that is on the AR as a RB/WR/ Returner and has yet to be identified / found.

Noah Hallett played relatively injury free in 2024 IIRC but I think his time is done.

 

We'll need to find roster spots for a few 2025 draft picks and / or possibly some form 2024 that have finished school.

 

I think would be wise to have the flexibility to flip RB and OG to an American - if needed

It's also worth noting that they have certain positions on the team where the drop off behind the regular starter is huge

RB, OT, some Receivers - hopefully they're taking a hard look at up and coming players for depth - they seem to do this quite effectively at DB and LB

 

On 2025-01-16 at 1:21 PM, Booch said:

you forgot that same yr Schoen and Bailey could not run...and Demski could barely....But Bolo sat on sideline all Grey Cup..took zero snaps...and said eff this I outta here over the winter

Yr prior...ZC could not move....plant to throw....and was basically at 50% uefulness.....2025 gonna be more the same horseshit sadly

We also had that former Stamp receiver (forget his name) who had been on the roster since late September & could have played in the GC as he would have been totally up to speed to play . Maybe Bolo & the guy from the Stamps were backups but they would have been more viable than an injured Schoen & Demski not being able to go at 100%.

 

Edited January 19, 20251 yr by SpeedFlex27

3 hours ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

We also had that former Stamp receiver (forget his name) who had been on the roster since late September & could have played in the GC as he would have been totally up to speed to play . Maybe Bolo & the guy from the Stamps were backups but they would have been more viable than an injured Schoen & Demski not being able to go at 100%.

 

Yeah Ambles...and being a CFL vet and familiar with the league could easily have slid into lineup and been effective

On 2025-01-19 at 5:00 AM, Booch said:

Yeah Ambles...and being a CFL vet and familiar with the league could easily have slid into lineup and been effective

Markeith Ambles, that's right. Why the **** did we even dress the guy for nothing?? He should have played. Same with O'Leary-Orange. 

1 hour ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

Markeith Ambles, that's right. Why the **** did we even dress the guy for nothing?? He should have played. Same with O'Leary-Orange. 

we were Oshin.....and losing....x3

Yup lost cuz a dude who never played another cfl game again never played. Honestly. The hysteria is a bit much. 

2 minutes ago, Goalie said:

Yup lost cuz a dude who never played another cfl game again never played. Honestly. The hysteria is a bit much. 

I don't think anyone is suggesting we lost because Ambles didn't play.

I think its adding to the debate about dressing starters at 50%-70% versus dressing depth players at 100%.