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17 hours ago, Booch said:

We need to go back to the true whites without that blue shoulder color...those were sweet away unis

Amen. I hate the blue shoulders, it’s the only thing I would change on our uniforms other than maybe just thinning out the number set a tiny, tiny sliver.

7 minutes ago, bearpants said:

he would be an extreme long shot to make the team as a wr... but what about the possibility of being a special teamer?... no one is unseating Janarion just yet but wasn't MOS Jr a dynamic returner in the BC jr league?

He’s nowhere near fast enough to be a returner in this league. To put his athleticism into perspective, his 40 time would’ve been dead last at the NFL combine for receivers by almost .2 seconds. Would’ve only beat one tight end. No linebackers. No corners. No safeties. Even the punter who ran the 40 this year was faster than him. 

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    3 minutes ago, bearpants said:

    he would be an extreme long shot to make the team as a wr... but what about the possibility of being a special teamer?... no one is unseating Janarion just yet but wasn't MOS Jr a dynamic returner in the BC jr league?

    Yep, he was. And he could be like some of our early 2k ni Wrs Howell and drover etc. able to play any teams and back up other positions. 
     

    Grant is maybe the best kr in the league, but I think Cole and Henry will put up a real battle. They are both explosive play makers with the ball in their hands. I expect the best battle we’ve seen at kr in a long long time.  
    Both are more offensive players who return kicks as well. I think one or both with be sticking with us for a while. guys like that with top notch athleticism are hard to come by. 

    4 minutes ago, Mike said:

    Amen. I hate the blue shoulders, it’s the only thing I would change on our uniforms other than maybe just thinning out the number set a tiny, tiny sliver.

    He’s nowhere near fast enough to be a returner in this league. To put his athleticism into perspective, his 40 time would’ve been dead last at the NFL combine for receivers by almost .2 seconds. Would’ve only beat one tight end. No linebackers. No corners. No safeties. Even the punter who ran the 40 this year was faster than him. 

    While that’s true, the same could be said for most of the wrs who started for us the last couple years. 1 really good 40 that scouts considered and outlier. Lots of guys like lawler running high 4.7s. 

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    15 hours ago, Booch said:

    Glaring hole....and be nice if Bennett can carry the load of 15 to 20 reps a game...seems legit enough....and opening that extra spot up DI wise would be huge...

    I'm not a huge fan of undersized DE's. However, in limited deployment he could certainly add a wrinkle to our D that would give DCs something to think about and very much a change of pace for any OL he lines up against. Would take them out of rhythm that's for sure.

    12 minutes ago, Mike said:

    Amen. I hate the blue shoulders, it’s the only thing I would change on our uniforms other than maybe just thinning out the number set a tiny, tiny sliver.

    He’s nowhere near fast enough to be a returner in this league. To put his athleticism into perspective, his 40 time would’ve been dead last at the NFL combine for receivers by almost .2 seconds. Would’ve only beat one tight end. No linebackers. No corners. No safeties. Even the punter who ran the 40 this year was faster than him. 

    Yea....I think his very top end would be if he could be a JFG type player in this league. I doubt he would make the team in any kind of specialist role. He would have to demonstrate himself as adequate depth with really good ability as a ST plumber. I quite honestly don't see a scenario where he makes the team. Not a knock on him...just the reality that he is trying to crack a stacked roster against long odds.

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    35 minutes ago, Mike said:

    Amen. I hate the blue shoulders, it’s the only thing I would change on our uniforms other than maybe just thinning out the number set a tiny, tiny sliver.

    Agreed. 
    I’d also get rid of the big wordmarks above the numbers that every team has. 

    That being said, Bombers still have the best uni sets in the league and it’s not close. 

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    30 minutes ago, GCn20 said:

    I'm not a huge fan of undersized DE's. However, in limited deployment he could certainly add a wrinkle to our D that would give DCs something to think about and very much a change of pace for any OL he lines up against. Would take them out of rhythm that's for sure.

    Yea....I think his very top end would be if he could be a JFG type player in this league. I doubt he would make the team in any kind of specialist role. He would have to demonstrate himself as adequate depth with really good ability as a ST plumber. I quite honestly don't see a scenario where he makes the team. Not a knock on him...just the reality that he is trying to crack a stacked roster against long odds.

    Undersized is relative. For guys like Montford and walls length and explosive power and quickness played larger than life. Another 5–10 lean lbs would be an asset no doubt. But being tall and 245+ isn’t as important Imo. Especially if you rotate dl. 
     

    we signed another nose tackle today so I’m guessing it’s true that obg isn’t reporting. Caleb thomas is even more athletic though and with a better pedigree. Hopefully he can be a stud. 

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    7 minutes ago, wbbfan said:

    Undersized is relative. For guys like Montford and walls length and explosive power and quickness played larger than life. Another 5–10 lean lbs would be an asset no doubt. But being tall and 245+ isn’t as important Imo. Especially if you rotate dl. 
     

    we signed another nose tackle today so I’m guessing it’s true that obg isn’t reporting. Caleb thomas is even more athletic though and with a better pedigree. Hopefully he can be a stud. 

    OBG was signed to BC prior to 2021 but never came up to Canada, maybe a bit of a pattern for this guy?

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    47 minutes ago, Noeller said:

    not much to see here, but I like that Mac Danny is involved with the QBs at all...... regardless of his official position, I'm sure he can be a help in the QB room...

    shrugs...what do Mc and Buck know about QBing??  LOL....love to see all that experience we have on board to mentor the QB's on this team.  Any other team in CFL have that kind of QB coaching depth?  All we are missing is Khari and Dunigan out there helping out and we'd have the Bombers QB legacy complete.  Maybe we can get Dieter up here for a few days of camp too lol...

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    2 hours ago, wbbfan said:

    Yep, he was. And he could be like some of our early 2k ni Wrs Howell and drover etc. able to play any teams and back up other positions. 
     

    Grant is maybe the best kr in the league, but I think Cole and Henry will put up a real battle. They are both explosive play makers with the ball in their hands. I expect the best battle we’ve seen at kr in a long long time.  
    Both are more offensive players who return kicks as well. I think one or both with be sticking with us for a while. guys like that with top notch athleticism are hard to come by. 

    While that’s true, the same could be said for most of the wrs who started for us the last couple years. 1 really good 40 that scouts considered and outlier. Lots of guys like lawler running high 4.7s. 

    Grant is probably the best returner in club history.

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    There’s a difference between talking about a guy who runs a 4.86 40 who returned kicks in a Canadian junior football league and a guy like Lawler (who actually ran a 4.64) who competed at the D1 level successfully. The athleticism isn’t even comparable.

    4.86 as a receiver or returner is … bad. No matter how you try and shape or frame it, that’s not good speed. 
     

    To put it into perspective … he runs a closer 40 yard time to Liam Dobson than he does to Janarion Grant. 

     

    comment_630055
    1 hour ago, Jpan85 said:

    Grant is probably the best returner in club history.

    You’re right. I think he is our best return man ever. Personally I love having more than one on the roster. Especially having 2 back on kick offs. With the other two being versatile be/wr types that can work though not very likely with a di spot on a kicker. 
     Still I think one or both will kick around and get a shot to play offense at some point. 

     

    1 hour ago, Mike said:

    There’s a difference between talking about a guy who runs a 4.86 40 who returned kicks in a Canadian junior football league and a guy like Lawler (who actually ran a 4.64) who competed at the D1 level successfully. The athleticism isn’t even comparable.

    4.86 as a receiver or returner is … bad. No matter how you try and shape or frame it, that’s not good speed. 
     

    To put it into perspective … he runs a closer 40 yard time to Liam Dobson than he does to Janarion Grant. 

     

    Lawler and any d1 wr has been trained in running the 40 since at least middle school though. Not true of a junior kid up here. 
     Dobsons 5.3 vs grants 4.56 best. 
    If he went to a combine pre event like Chris carter used to run (fast, idk if it’s still open) he’d easily be down to a high 4.6 low 4.7. 
    simonise was pretty close to his score with out the junior success and with more track polish. 
     

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    10 minutes ago, wbbfan said:

    You’re right. I think he is our best return man ever. Personally I love having more than one on the roster. Especially having 2 back on kick offs. With the other two being versatile be/wr types that can work though not very likely with a di spot on a kicker. 
     Still I think one or both will kick around and get a shot to play offense at some point. 

     

    Lawler and any d1 wr has been trained in running the 40 since at least middle school though. Not true of a junior kid up here. 
     Dobsons 5.3 vs grants 4.56 best. 
    If he went to a combine pre event like Chris carter used to run (fast, idk if it’s still open) he’d easily be down to a high 4.6 low 4.7. 
    simonise was pretty close to his score with out the junior success and with more track polish. 
     

    what I like about Grant and truly sets him apart is he is strong AF and tough as nails....for a lil dude, he pushed 22 reps of 225 at a pro day I believe...better numbers than many lineman/linebackers and guys twice his size...dudes a lil freak athlete

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