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3 hours ago, GCn20 said:

We pay more for our starting QB than they do...advantage BC

Our QB salary is only going up 50k over last year compared to 280k for the Lions....advantage Winnipeg

We were 15-3 with a 550k QB last year, no reason to believe that the extra 50k we will spend on Collaros this year makes any difference.

The Lions paid around a 100k on starting QB last year, they need to find 250k in their budget this year. Not as bad as it would have been if Rourke stayed and got his 600k but still some tough decisions for BC. They field pretty much exactly the same unit as last year but they need to chop 2-3 high end players. We don't. We have already incorporated ZC into our salary structure before. We did our sacrificing last year. BC is in a significantly tougher spot than we are.

The Lions had room for VAJ half of last year, so they've already incorporated both VAJ's and Rouke's salary in the SMS. Pipkin is probably getting $250K+, drop him and they're golden. Add in Burnham's $165K and they're ahead of the game. As for chopping 2-3 high end players, Burnham and Rourke are those players, they don't need to chop 2-3 more.

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comment_617369
1 minute ago, TBURGESS said:

The Lions had room for VAJ half of last year, so they've already incorporated both VAJ's and Rouke's salary in the SMS. Pipkin is probably getting $250K+, drop him and they're golden. Add in Burnham's $165K and they're ahead of the game. As for chopping 2-3 high end players, Burnham and Rourke are those players, they don't need to chop 2-3 more.

And Pipkin is very easily replaced. He has shown very little.

comment_617373
4 minutes ago, TBURGESS said:

The Lions had room for VAJ half of last year, so they've already incorporated both VAJ's and Rouke's salary in the SMS. Pipkin is probably getting $250K+, drop him and they're golden. Add in Burnham's $165K and they're ahead of the game. As for chopping 2-3 high end players, Burnham and Rourke are those players, they don't need to chop 2-3 more.

Pipkin isn't making more money than Vernon Adams. That's an insane statement. And so is saying they're golden when they're not. Rourke made $71,000 last year & every qb on that Lions roster will be making more this season is going to mess with their salary cap. By the time they're finished there will be veterans of the lions signing elsewhere. 

comment_617378
39 minutes ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

Pipkin isn't making more money than Vernon Adams. That's an insane statement. And so is saying they're golden when they're not. Rourke made $71,000 last year & every qb on that Lions roster will be making more this season is going to mess with their salary cap. By the time they're finished there will be veterans of the lions signing elsewhere. 

Correct.  TSN had him maxing out at 116k if he got his playing bonuses (80k base salary).

https://www.tsn.ca/cfl-qb-market-tracker-1.1754589

comment_617398
2 hours ago, Tracker said:

Don't underestimate team/management politics and bias. Streveler is better than other QBs on the NY Jets team, but still didn't get the reps.

And that's the situation Rourke didn't want.

He's not going to walk on a team and supplant a starter. He needed a spot that would give him the opportunity to compete for the #2.

It's also important that you don't go somewhere where the coaching staff is going to be fired mid-season. You pick the team with the worst starting QB and that's exactly what will happen.

comment_617400
22 minutes ago, Jesse said:

And that's the situation Rourke didn't want.

He's not going to walk on a team and supplant a starter. He needed a spot that would give him the opportunity to compete for the #2.

It's also important that you don't go somewhere where the coaching staff is going to be fired mid-season. You pick the team with the worst starting QB and that's exactly what will happen.

The way the NFL works, Pederson could be unemployed by season's end next year. There are no guarantees. Rourke was signed by Jacksonville based a lot on the urging of Hank Burris who is an assistant coach with the Jags.

comment_617409
13 hours ago, TBURGESS said:

The Lions had room for VAJ half of last year, so they've already incorporated both VAJ's and Rouke's salary in the SMS. Pipkin is probably getting $250K+, drop him and they're golden. Add in Burnham's $165K and they're ahead of the game. As for chopping 2-3 high end players, Burnham and Rourke are those players, they don't need to chop 2-3 more.

That would be true if Montreal hadn't paid 2/3 of Adam's salary before they traded him last year. Last year's total cap hit for Adams to the Lions was 75k. Between Rourke's time and Adams pay they came in at less than a 100k for their starting QB. Adams is due for 350-370k this year. Do the math TB. Montreal is not paying 280k of Adams contract this year.

9 hours ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

The way the NFL works, Pederson could be unemployed by season's end next year. There are no guarantees. Rourke was signed by Jacksonville based a lot on the urging of Hank Burris who is an assistant coach with the Jags.

It doesn't matter who is ahead of you on the depth chart if the coaches are bringing you in to be TCF. Rourke went to the best opportunity he could find where he earnestly believed the coaches will give him a fair shot. NFL politics being what it is, I don't blame him.

comment_617410
9 hours ago, Jesse said:

You don't need insiders to tell you it's both the Riders' and Dane's only option.

I can imagine how stoked the RIder coaches must be at the prospect of trading out one blubbering, crying, finger pointing, mental mess of a QB only to replace him with his exact doppelganger from another team. BROKEN. The Riders would be better off with a Dru Brown or another young QB that isn't mentally broken. Not sure what they are thinking about really. 

9 hours ago, Jesse said:

And that's the situation Rourke didn't want.

He's not going to walk on a team and supplant a starter. He needed a spot that would give him the opportunity to compete for the #2.

It's also important that you don't go somewhere where the coaching staff is going to be fired mid-season. You pick the team with the worst starting QB and that's exactly what will happen.

There is no pressure on him in Jacksonville, they are a team on the rise with a great offensive system and that seems to earnestly believe in him. Good for him, I say.

comment_617436
2 hours ago, GCn20 said:

That would be true if Montreal hadn't paid 2/3 of Adam's salary before they traded him last year. Last year's total cap hit for Adams to the Lions was 75k. Between Rourke's time and Adams pay they came in at less than a 100k for their starting QB. Adams is due for 350-370k this year. Do the math TB. Montreal is not paying 280k of Adams contract this year.

I got Pipkins salary wrong, he only saves them $80K. Using last years SMS hits... Pipkin @ $80K, Adams @ $75K, Rourke @ $71K, Burnham @ $165K = $391K of SMS savings. Is that the math that you wanted me to do?

 

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