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That's not what I was doing and you know it. I don't expect Streveler to have Reilly's stats or game. I do expect he will get better with reps and experience. I don't think that 1 game in a monsoon against a team without half it's DB's is a realistic yardstick for any QB. Good game or not.

If you think that about 50% completions, under 180 yards, 3 TD's with 2 INT's is a good to great game for any pro QB, that's fine as long as you use the same criteria for other teams young QB's. I suspect you'd be laughing at the Riders or the Als if one of their young guns lost a game with those stats.I know folks think that Jennings sucks. His stats are better. Willy sucks. His stats are better. Bridge runs hot and cold. His stats are better. I like what I saw in Streveler, but I've seen young QB's have good first games then not be able to keep it up. Lets not suggest, like one poster, that we look to trade Nichols. Lets not suggest that he's our Franklin or the best player that Walters has brought in. Lets wait for a few weeks to see what we have before we overload the bandwagon.

Almost everyone is saying what a great game he had. I used Reilly as a comparison of what a good to great QB's stats look like on the same crappy wet night. I see the first pick differently. Surprise eh? Both Woli and Sherritt came back to the ball. Sherritt made the better play and took the ball away. That being said, Streveler tried, unsuccessfully, to force the ball into a very small spot. The second INT didn't make any difference to the game, but it was still an INT. I'm sure everyone can agree that Willy, a QB that is universally considered to be bad, had a bad game against BC. He threw for 100+ more yards, had 1 less INT and a significantly better completion % (71.4% vs 53.6%). I'm simply saying that we should hold our QB to the same standards that we hold other teams QB's to.

Streveler did OK against the Esks, who were without half of their DB's, but lets not pretend that he was great. He threw 3 TD's, 2 INT's, was 15/28 for a 53.6% completion average and only managed 178 yards, 37 of them on one pass into a blown coverage. Pretty darn good for a rookie QB in his first game, but not a world beater. I'd suggest that he'll have a tougher night against Montreal because of their DC and the fact they aren't starting 3 rookie DB's. JFTR: Reilly threw for 408 (101 on one play), 1 TD, 1 INT and was 32/46 for a 69.6% completion avg, in the same conditions.

I don't think that Leggett, LeFrance or Wild are coming off the IR this week. It will be interesting to see how Montreal defends Streveler now that they have some film on him. Rich Stublers defenses are bend don't break, so Streveler will have to put together long drives without mistakes to win, not just a few big plays. Our big advantage should be our defense or Willy if you prefer. Gotta assume we're going to blitz often to force Willy to make mistakes. Should be enough for a win IMO.

I liked what I saw from Streveler last night. Threw the ball hard and mostly accurately. Seems like he knew who to throw it to. His running gives him another dimension that should help him out when he gets confused. That being said, I'll hold off for a few more games before I call him the next Franklin. Lots of one game wonders in the last few decades. Lets see how he does now that CFL coaches have a bit of film on him and know how PLAP intends on using him.

Ray wasn't getting a lot of time from his OL and he's not exactly a scrambling QB. Once the Riders took Wilder out of the equation, the game was tipped in their favour. If Trestman challenges for PI on the int returned for a TD, Toronto might have pulled it out. (Ball wasn't tipped and the DB hit Green before the ball got there = PI)

I'll take James Wilder too.

Ross had a horrible first pre-season game and a good 2nd one. That's what I expect to continue happening for a while, even in game. Inexperienced QB's are almost always hot and cold. They'll do something great then something stupid. They'll make a great read, then a bad one. They'll run for a big gain, then take too long in the pocket and get sacked. They'll deliver on time on target then late or off target. We simply have to expect the good with the bad. It comes with the territory.

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I'm surprised about Faith and Montgomery.

Vernon Adams is still all potential. On his 3rd team in 3 years and looks like he'll be cut this weekend. He completed 1 pass last year. He's not much more than a short yardage QB right now.

I'm not sure it even ensures that, but Nichols won't be the only player to go down for a while this year. Adams, Bowman, Dressler, Wild and Neufeld all have multiple injury histories.

It's ridiculous to pretend that anyone is 'writing things off at this point'. We could go anywhere from 6-0 to 0-6 or anywhere in between, no matter what the predictions are because, predictions don't equal results. FTR: The season won't be lost if we go 2-4 or even 1-5 to start out. When we get Nichols back, our real season starts. Hopefully we'll win enough in the second two thirds of the season to make the playoffs

I was annoyed that we signed him too (Had several "You're so negative" arguments about it), but I'd rather have a 'Hasn't been good in 3 years' over a 'complete unknown'.

What makes you think that a rookie QB can 'simply avoid turnovers' or that it 'shouldn't be hard'? I'm sure everyone would be more comfortable if DoubleDoosh hadn't retired or even if we'd kept Davis around, but that's not what happened.

It's based on the reality of our situation without Nichols. I'm not assuming that BC will be good. I'm assuming BC with Jennings is better than us with "Who knows what we have" at QB. If we still had Nichols, my prediction would be very different. Ricky Ray was the last rookie QB to do well and there have a whole bunch of CFL rookie QB's since then. We've gone through tons of them ourselves. The odds are (A figure of speech, not actual odds) that either of our inexperienced QB's are the next Ricky Ray are very low indeed. The most likely scenario is that our young QB's make more mistakes and take longer to process than Nichols would. That's more missed reads, more INT's, more sacks, more 2 and outs. Defense and special teams will need to be lights out for us to have a chance in most games until Nichols comes back. I'm still not convinced that Hall has a shutdown defence despite the talent level. Defense didn't win us games last year anyway. We won them because we scored a bunch of points and didn't turn the ball over very often. I don't see that happening with inexperienced QB's. A negative spin would be that we go 0-6 because we have the worst QB situation in the league. Even Montreal has more experience at the most important spot on the team.

Sorry, I messed up the schedule somehow last night. 😖 Wk 1 vs. EdmWk 2 @ MtlWk 3 @ HamWk 4 vs BCWk 5 @ BCWk 6 @ Tor I can see us beating Montreal, cuz they don't have a starting QB either and look like the worst team in the league. Hamilton could go either way. I don't see that we have the team, without Nichols, to beat Edm, BC or Toronto. I'll still go with a prediction of 2-4 and that's not based on negativity.

Without Nichols, the odds are that we lose to Edmonton, beat Mtl, split with Hamilton and lose both to BC in the first 6 weeks. That's good for a 2-4 record and losing the season series to the Lions.

Thanks for the info. PIA, the VPN I'm using, is about $3 a month so the savings are still pretty good. I'll try a game to see how it goes.

We need to play our interim 'starter' against BC's starters now to get a handle on what they will look like when it counts. Fair to them? Yup. They'll want to play against the starters if they're any good to us.

Which country did you choose? Did it stream consistently? Was it in HD? How much bandwidth?

Shaw has a great deal. TSN's are $14 on Telus and $7 on VMedia. Of course that's on top of your other channel package(s).

It's not about if KG wants to come to Winnipeg. It's about if Edmonton wants to trade their backup QB at all, let alone a Western team.

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