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Imagine if Kelly gets banged up in this game? The 17 argos fans in Toronto would be livid! Man dukes has thrown 15 passes in the cfl. Dru brown has thrown 129, Poopkup has attempted 607. Collaros ofc has 2137. Kelly has 370. Harris has 164 Carries as an Argo. Boy I’d be concerned about experience among the Argo QBs.

It illustrates what I said about the 90s and early 2ks lol. The Argos attendance of 2-3k last year couldn't go significantly down. Again, you’re wrong. (Is that better?) pinball hasn’t been un involved with the Argos at any point since he retired. Holding what must be the longest continual employement in the cfl today being an Argo in one form or another since 1989. he coached sporadically between 2000 and 2007 while also serving on and off as club president gm and ceo at different times while just being ceo and gm in 2008. 09-2019 he was the vice chairman of the board. 19 forward he was the gm again. Maybe check his write up on the Argos site or wiki or the cfl lol. Instead of lulu.com and a book about rocket Ishmail. No, it isn’t. Pinball is entirely responsible for Dinwiddie.

Pretty awesome get. Reminds me a lot of Willy. this is always the rub. But if mos doesn’t manage the roster better starting this week we are in for a bitter disappointment at year end.

Bc is a huge game too, they have crapskatchewan and we have the same record. Ssk us ham cal vs tor bc and the elk who are suddenly on a heater. We get a bye then they have one in the last week. If we lose vs tor the wf will likely be wrapped up before the last game of the year. Unless bc really craps the bed. Losing back to back games this late in the season would also be a huge step back at the worst time.

This is the biggest game of the year. After a tough loss and a bye, at home in front of a sell out crowd vs the team that dethroned the bombers last year and the no1 team in the league. This will be the biggest indicator game for us. We should come out fast and hard while the Argos have every reason to be soft. We also still have the wf on the line. Lots of keys to success here. We gotta get consistent pressure on Kelly and with 5 or less rushers. We have to make him pay to stand in the pocket and make him uncomfortable. But we can’t sell out blitzes all the time and give him easy first down passes. The key to this is going to be dressing extra imp dl. Toronto loves to run outside/wide zone. The key step stopping their run isn’t as much going to be dl, it’s going to be about kyrie and biggie not getting washed out and filling the off tackle gap getting off blocks etc. Or dbs needs to do a better job of not selling out for picks (especially Houston) and hits (especially ba) or biting on fakes. We also need to get back to the gang tackling that made our secondary formidable. We have to protect Zach, and not get deep ball punch drunk. Gotta take what the D gives us, and pound the rock. Kick cover has sucked this year to put it lightly. We need to get back to our regular cover scheme, and stay lane disciplined.

That’s factually inaccurate. The Argos had more good years than bad attendance wise in the 90s with a lul post flutie and a 2000s bounce back. The 93-95 argos especially struggled to compete with the jays post back to back ships. The late 90s post flutie era did the same when the raptors came to town. the only thing that’s gotten better in the to market in 5 years is how good the Argos are at lying about attendance. mlse didn’t do any thing management wise. Pinball was running it and changed positions as he had in the past depending on his ability to devote time to the team. He put dinwiddie in place and they built this team. That’s got nothing to do with mlse. Mlse came into a team that was consistently hosting a home play off game every other year and they won 4 games in back to back years. They have a team that should be a contender now. Last year was a surprise win and this is the first year of them being a serious contender.

You’re right, but they do leverage it. Especially in sports.

That’s what modern defences are designed to do. It used to be about showing one thing pre snap and another post snap. Forcing two reads to be accurate and track the change. Now it’s even post snap with asymmetrical coverage. It’s not one guy covering one guy or even covering one area any more. It’s 4 guys sharing the coverage on one side of the field. And that can change from 4 to 5 to 3, to one of those guys playing man and the rest playing zone, or rotating guys to the inside or over the top to take away different angles. The WRs are reading the defence to adjust patterns and the coverage is reading the patterns to adjust their coverage. If the play gets rushed or it’s a fast timing play and the coverage call is lucky or really smart you get a play that makes a qb or oc look real stupid and a db or dc look brilliant. And vice versa. Zach had a pick Vs Hamilton like that.

The thing about that is each really has its own niche with in Toronto. Especially the raptors and jays. Leafs are what they are. But the demographic at a raptors game is very very different. Even the jays to an extent. The Argos lost their niche. But the lions also lost theirs and have done a great job of getting it back with out going to a grey cup. Problem is mlse is a deadbeat owner. They’ve had the Argos for 5 years and things have only gotten much worse.

Soo true. Unless you do a massive near complete stand area rebuild and basically build a new stadium around the field I can’t see it working out. Is exhibition stadium really soo bad that it couldn’t be updated? I’ve heard rumblings a few times the last year or so about about the mlb returning to Montreal. That might be their best chance. I have a hard time understanding how Winnipeg and Saskatchewan, publicly owned teams can get new stadiums built but places like Montreal can’t. They get like 7b in redistribution payments every year. They have private owners with deep pockets who could kick in far more than us.

Love to see oakman here

A stable, competitive ALs franchise is really big for the cfl. If they can finally sort out the stadium that’d be fantastic but it’s been an issue for soo long I’m not holding my breath.

True, but pissed odd motivated Harris is always dangerous. And you know he’d be both to play us.

Yep. Tor spent 50k over we spent 65, ott went 12k over and mtl went 800 bucks over lol.

I think the main hope will be that gambling revenue can inject some serious cash. Otherwise for us, it’s gonna be about doing the smart franchise thing and cutting some dead weight salary.

Great point. Soo true. And yeah lots of kids that need a chance. Man it’d be great if we took a page out of the xfl book and signed a bunch of guys as a league brought them up had a rookie camp / combine then a junior draft with those guys. It can be soo hard to cover all that ground for regional scouts especially with the football ops cap. That could be the huge shot of talent at qb that the cfl really needs.

Its even worse in the deep south. It is soo easy for kids to fall between the cracks no matter how talented. Thats pretty cool, its interesting to see how many cfl guys are working in Europe the last decade. Mike sellers was iirc 18 or 19 when he came up to the CFL with edmonton the first time. His career likely never would've happened the way things work now.

How many starts/games played though? How many of those guys would've been in an NFL camp with out the XFL? Just like say MBT bounced team to team TC to TC year after year. They'll take it, but if any thing it is just at the cost of guys from the previous years camp cuts. Also remember the NFL PR has expanded a lot this year. If it wasn't for the XFL those spots would still be filled. And with out the XFL generating significant starters etc, it's just front running the other sources players would be signing from. If I was one of those leagues, I'd cut in on college teams. Take kids from HS with out college experience. You'd need to develop some, but you would certainly get out in front of some higher talent with out school grades and providing a pay cheque. And you'd catch some significant talent from better CC teams, and guys who just cant do post-secondary education.

The amount of people who engage in dumb money is crazy. People forget that Amazon wasn't profitable for nearly 20 years. The NFL over all doesn't need a feeder league. That said, some positions like OL have really struggled with modern athletes. Too many of those guys go to the DL instead. Thats part of the failing in the XFLs claims of how many guys went to NFL camps. Thee NFL only cares about finding stars. They don't care if you produce TCF. They aren't going to be missing guys, or have significantly worse guys in the last 10 TC spots either way. The football talent pool at many positions is so deep that many players need multiple recycling leagues. Dbs, rbs, wrs, Lbers, k/p, DE, all have tremendous talent fall between the cracks every year. The players need the chance. The NFL doesn't soo much need them to be pushed back up. Qbs, and OL especially are always in great need in every league. But the talent pools are thinnest in those spots and that has massive negative effect on leagues watchability. If any one needs more waste catch leagues, it is the CFL. In the long term it is always us that benefits from these start ups. Most of the guys who succeed in these leagues wont go up and stick in the NFL. They will end up here, for the money eventually if they are good enough.

It’s not about the value of the Xfl. The xfl had zero value and they paid 15mil for it. The impending break up before it was bough was for going to be for Pennies compared to that. They already are and have. That’s actually in their design with how they sign all the players and own all the teams. I do agree that the buck stops some where, but we don’t know where that is and I fully believe they will still be fully willing to spend this year. It’s kind of sad to me. I think a couple of the markets are strong and deserve more sport teams. Maybe the nfl will go back to stlouis. I mean they averaged 35k fans in the stands in a league that saw a lot of argos level paid attendance at best.

Garcia is worth 40m the rock is worth 800m and firebird is worth 7 billion. That’s the ownership group.

I think the easiest way for them would be to have a nation league / American League division split. Xfl division and usfl. Then you have an inter league week and a shared championship after each divisional championship. I would’ve done the same if we did do a cfl merger, keep the differences and split them to play two weeks together. In the end I suspect the usfl can’t afford to keep running as is. And the Xfl has tons of cash, so if they merge the xfl might buy some or all of the teams. Though people who work in money management seldom have a high tolerance for losing their own money with no recourse.

I don’t disagree. Darby played him self off the team not just out of the starting line up. Maybe he’s hurt or has some thing else going on. Parker earned a look too though last year. I think Kramdi suffers more playing Sam than he would half. Might even be better off at S. he has a great knack at getting into a position to make a play. He struggles with making the play consistently. At Sam even half you need more the consistent play than the flashy big play. That’s kind of what Houston and ba have fallen in to. Selling out for picks and hits respectively. Id much rather our ni db be ford, but if we want to grow with Kramdi as long as he keeps making progress it does make sense. Of course I’d rather go with an extra imp dt then start 8 nis.

Any thing is possible really. Out side of bc tor and wpg the difference between teams is negligible. I mean some media types are claiming edm as the hottest team in the league. Mtl ham ssk cal edm are all separated by just 2 wins and ott is just one back of them. If ott wins out and ham/mtl lose out ott would host a play off game. Ssk has given up the most points and scored the least. Yet is 3rd in the west and has beat the two teams infront on back to back weeks. Ott has a better points for/ against than ssk, cal, edm, and Hamilton. In the 2nd tier glut only mtl has a better f/a.

Damn that sucks for him and them.