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Yeah. I wonder if they’d play it really late if it improves at night, or tomorrow or if they’d cancel.

Key guys/positions to watch for me : Gowan/Vaval/parker. Db is deep and we have few openings. Still maybe 1 job up for grabs, and maybe a KR job to be grabbed. Gowan and Vaval look too good to straight cut. Should be a good one. Shay/Smith should get more reps on D this week, really look forward to seeing more of them. Ayers. All he does is excel, but it looks like he is up creek with out a paddle roster wise. Person and Bailey. Person looked good in limited reps last week, Bailey didn't see a ton of snaps both had strong camps. We likely DI one DL, going to be a battle for that spot. Bailey has a big inside track as a 2nd global. Adams/ woods / pointer. Adams played the best of these 3, and pointer second. Which is a suprise, considering how good woods was last year. lawson to see how he shakes the rust off, and shout out to 92 davis the kid from the riffles who got a little shine in camp. Only been playing football a couple years but doesn't show it. Wallace,Vanterpool and randolph. The final shoot out for the starting ol jobs. white/mitchell and mitchell. The finale of the under whelming wr core position battle. Some one needs to step up, or we need them to any way. Cooley, the front runner for PS MVP. Zach and strev, can we get a td or two please?

Last chance to clinch the iconic TC MVP trophy and ascend to the hall of legends with the likes of Joshua Bostick, Tony Ortiz, and Manase Foketi (who managed to win it without even making it to camp!)

I think this is the best solution.

Given our previous camps it isn’t ridiculous at all. We’ve cut guys the day after a ps game who didn’t play, who played extremely well, we’ve failed to play guys enough to get the rust off etc

Seems kind of strange to burry the second game with back ups, when the first game of the season is in week 2. I am glad a bunch of guys are gonna get some good reps, but if the majority of decisions are made, whats the point?

I don't understand not grooming him more to be a RB, seems like we are lowering his ceiling. I really don't understand out moves at Lber. If Kyrie and Tjones were gonna be handed the starting jobs, why bring in Jjones? Give jones a signing bonus and bring him in to maybe DI and cut ayers? I don't think vaughters has out right won the position by play, but I also don't think any one has clearly out played him for it. The closest thing imo would be adams to DE with woods/pointer at dt to bump vaughters. But hes a better player than Kyrie at this point pretty easily.

Odd, I suspect it's just not updated. I don't see any signs of him coming back.

hey maybe we can get a group deal? Buy 2 get kola free? I mean that will knock any one out of commission for a while.

Yep. Ayers is my biggest worry. That kid has soo much potential, work ethic and desire. He makes plays few people in football can pull off. Be it on teams or D. We gotta keep polishing that kid. If he half fulfills what he’s capable of, he’s the best defensive player in the league. Idk how many times we’ve seen guys who are that level of disruptive, but it’s been really rare for us.

We could, but we will not use it on a starter as the mafia has been clear that they think that is unintended and shifty. I'm not sure if Parker qualifies based on years of service due to the injuries. Not sure how that works. Kyrie or Parker would be the best options for utilizing the spot. But then, with Parker, we are already going to be carrying Griffin and Shay as backups who can fill some DB roles. If Griffin took the CB job, Parker as the dime rotation guy would be great. But I think Parker could be getting passed by both Vaval and Gowan. Kyrie would bring some value, but he's the last of the 4 imp lbers who should be on the AR. WJ would be the ideal guy who is eligible. But I don't think they will even consider that. I am fully prepared to be disappointed by our NA roster usage, again. WJ would make a lot of sense. Even Bryant could allow us to take off a NI for an IMP for half his snaps. I won't think our Imp WR depth is worth doing that though. Be great for a package around cooley, and eventually Logan when healthy.

I think the drop off from Wallace to imp should be small. We gain more imo with the imp on D. As it is we have 1 starter spot and hopefully 1 back up spot for woods, adams, person, pointer and Webb. 1 di spot for griffin, valval, ayers/jones, one for Sergio and one for a kr. If we go none di for kr, and 3 ni on the ol it helps our ratio a whole lot. The injuries to Kelly and makonzo hurt a lot on D. We are gonna have soo many bodies at lber again, we need all the dl and dbs who can actually on D on the ar.

I think that’s very much the case. Down the road I can see Randolph as the LT and vanterpool as the rt. Though Wallace may polish into that role. Now inb4 vanterpool gets cut lol. Lofton might be viewed in a similar light though I don’t see remotely the same ceiling as either.

Yeah. Second to injuries, (and rider wins) the thing I hate most in sports is wasted talent. Hope he manages to get him self sorted and back to where he needs to play. it’s been a lot of adjustments and trials of different combos. I don’t think Lofton has practiced much at all. Randolph has looked better than Lofton last year though imo. Hes settled into rt nicely. Vanterpool has taken a nice step forward in general. Wallace has been good. Saw him get beat off the line couple times but recover really well. Think that’s why he got a run at rt. He’s lost 15-20 from his pro day time and he hasn’t lost strength. Run block wise, he’s our best bet at guard imo. Pass pro, he’s worth growing with at this point. Eli is pretty much the usual. Much better at C than G, though playing beside the other Cs he was better than with kola. They really like vibert, and I could see him getting groomed on the pr for a year. Hes a nasty inside guy who can snap a bit and be groomed into a back up C pretty easily. Realistically could be a 6th ol in the league this year from what I’ve seen. Gets off the ball well, strong with a good base, nasty type we always like. Neuf looks significantly more mobile than he did all of last year. More explosive than he’s been in a while. If he stays healthy he should be as good as you’d hope. Among the other rookie imps, Atkinson is a throw back body style. He’s thick and strong and significantly heavier than his listed weight. He’s aggressive and got some good attribute's, but he looks like a straight up guard in need of polish. Which doesn’t happen up here. elsbury has the measurables and it shows on the field, but he’s raw. Reminds me of Randolph last year. I like Hemphills upside, he’s more polished and probably the best of the zone run blockers among the imports. I could see us easily keeping 1-2 imp ol on the pr and 1 ni, and probably another guy on the ir. Best ol imo: Bryant Neuf Eli vanterpool Randolph. realistically, we are gonna start kola if healthy and I don’t think we have the ratio at this point to go 3 imps with our hurting the d and teams. Bryant Neuf kola Wallace Randolph with Eli as the 6th is likely. I wouldn’t be surprised to see more Wallace at RT. I could see a world where we go 4ni ol with vibert on the ar and Wallace at RT easier than I can see us going 4 imp ol. If that happened, it’d be best to slide Neuf to his side to give him more help. Over all I like our ol crop, could still use more Canadian talent as always, we likely have to face more struggles with change though. Guys needs to gel, and take some lumps as starters at their positions. But that is coming for us no matter what. It’s a good time to move forward with young guys and build in near future replacements for Neuf and Bryant.

I believe that was in the presser where mos was first asked. If he arrives I’m sure we will get a little bit more info.

I don't think it's anything about butting heads. He was excused for family reasons, though I am wondering if he is going to be up here with us this year or at all now too.

interesting. Might not be any thing. Either way, I think he needs to play his way onto the team starting friday.

Yep, and given he is just returning to practice now, It might take a bit for him to get his cardio to 100% and the rust off. We will see. But I am confident he will get back to that point and be the guy he was previously. It might hamper his ability to take the next step forward this year though.

That brings value in keeping the return team off balance, too. Teams can't just run to a spot 40 yards downfield based on where their returner is set up / reading. Medlock was fantastic at recognizing when a KR was cheating to one side too much, then smashing a low screamer away from him, ending up with a massive punt bounce n roll for 70+ yards.

I do agree that imp wr is very talent deep. But it’s still really hit or miss among top talents. I think dbs are next most replaceable after RBs, then wrs. Imp guards would be really high but no one really uses them. I don’t like the crazy expensive wr core approach. I get keeping a guy like schoen, but after that to sustain success you really gotta find guys cheap and develop them. He was crazy green and played a lot as a rookie. 2nd year is big for Canadians and wrs. What I saw is he did a fantastic job of playing with in him self and not trying to do too much. Usually you see kids trying to cheat or look down field before the ball arrives. Clercius played like a seasoned pro and did every thing we could want. If he played a premium pass catcher spot he could be a volume guy. The fact we moved on from woli when he wasn’t even paid that much says a whole lot. Most loves woli. True, if they think they can turn guys around they will bring them in. There was a Time when Wj was considered problematic. If they didn’t believe in the guys ability to be a fit in the locker room and market they wouldn’t. They don’t just ignore guys with a past.

To be fair we haven’t had much competition at P. Evan’s is ridiculously good though. We drafted him I can’t imagine we won’t play him if he kills it in camp. Thing is he can kick for 45-50 with drastically better hang time than Sheahan. And with less shanks. I think Evan’s would have to really crap the bed to not make the team.

Case wasn’t in the first game, maybe he had to return home? Other wise we could’ve stuck some one on the ir who we know is gonna make it and doesn’t need the reps. Nah Lawson was taking equal reps with Thomas and more down the stretch before his injury. They paid him top tier money, he’s likely gonna play more snaps than Jake.

Thanks for sharing. That’s a good sign. I mean, it wouldn’t be like the mafia to bring in or keep around a toxic waste dump of a guy. Second chances are important, he doesn’t need to be tc mvp. But we badly need that no2/3 target. Weve got that all over possession guy who can do a bit of every thing in schoen, the catch and run guy in Demski, big reliable catchers in white and big Kev. Dmitch fits that last spot to a T of a deep threat who the D has to account for even when the ball doesn’t go his way.

That makes sense. He did start the season well, about half his production came in the first 4 games. 22 and 23 most of his production came in a similar chunk mid season.

Yep, when I broke down his total play off stats here I did the gcs too. It’s hideous.