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I know we have the week. I’m a little surprised we didn’t cut some guys though. Make room for new ones. In the past we’ve often seen the first wave come early. The way we are crunching for roster spots it makes me think they want to really squeeze the most we can out of the time we have with the guys we have in camp.

Few others too. If they are on the field at the same time we will call it the point break packsge.

Same. Soo much room for innovation on both sides of the ball but no one has interest in trying any thing different. Qb talent is in a serious dip, and has been for a while. But every one is still trying to get the same qb.

I mean mbt came back, ancestral spirits and all. But yeah brown is the only blue chip in league next guy we’ve seen in a while. Last couple flopped hard. Personally, I’d go heavy sets with a really good running qb and pound with some option and simple passing package. Play some bully football. Wils and macs are smaller than ever. Athletic big tes are more available than ever and don’t have a real market value up here. Run 21 and 22 form sets and make a bunch of 200 lbs guys try to get off the blocks of 250+ lbs guys.

Human bowling ball? lol. Isn’t he like 6’2 290? he was playing with a ruthless aggression though. The way he played he could’ve been an ol draft pick for us lol. 100%. If he out performs Thomas and or Lawson this year I’ll buy his damn jersey have him sign it at fan appreciation day and gladly eat crow in person. yep, I’m anticipating cut down day more than the last pre season game because that is going to be the big indicator of this season. Though we have frequently taken a couple weeks to get the right guys in, if the top talent is at least on the pr I’ll consider it a win. It already happened when we cut a guy he rostered in the gc and most of last season. If you think Walter’s and wade didn’t take action after we were out coached in the gc for the second time in a row idk what to say. You can argue the Symantec’s of reigning in, I’m sure mos is wanting to improve and do better as much as any one, but you can tell easily from this off season it happened.

Antonio brown announced he’s filing bankruptcy. He will try to get another nfl deal. How long before the elk or riders add him to the neg list?

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Yeah, I think the talent level in will be a big difference maker. How’d you feel about the line play in the pre season game?

Agree with all of that. I think the culture is dying, and this year with guys gone and soon with guys like biggie/ba/thomas/neuf gone it will be a fraction of its former self. (I think maybe one of those guys plays next year.) we need the next guys up in terms of culture and tone setters. the coaching progression is well set up with buck and jy locked in. I have no doubt that if we lost any of the big 3 mafia guys we would stay what we are. I feel like Walter’s and co made moves this off season to limited mos’ ability to have up jumped role guys to be a crutch. They may need to take another step to limit mos ability to put out sub optimal rosters. People have argued that we didn’t have the talent in camp in the past, which I don’t agree with. But this year, basically every one sees the talent is there to fill our holes and go next man up. If we cut a bunch of the lbers dl etc this year and run out ends who can’t get pressure dts who can’t close gaps etc the pressure will mount quickly. If we see minor injuries like to bo mount into multi game stints and longer I think it’ll be on as well. Winning isn’t enough in this market any more. That’s expected. We have the pieces to move forward and extend this dynasty into a long term thing.

That’s more that fair imo. And I don’t think that the change needed is firing mos, I think he might need reigning in.

He is primed for a spot in the hall of shame as a destroyer. I hear the gliebermens are going to do his induction speech

I feel like this would have been the case, but that Lawson injury’s for instance has hurt the progress of killing the old boys club a bit. If Lawson was healthy I think Jake starts out on the 6 game. for sure. I think the question is at what point does it stop being worth it? If we are a play off team that doesn’t make the cup? And how many cups in a row can you lose with out making changes? Being the first place loser has serious diminishing returns.

Agree thats all what is likely. Brady, Demski, woli, 3 ol, jake ford and I think ba won’t be back especially early it’ll be Hallet/kelly at S. so it could well be 10 ni starters with gauthier. With a di at K Kr and should be DE, I’m hopeful the last will be a lber. With karamoko and Kramdi as back ups. Letting us start Moses gemmel petrishen, di another and pr the last. Roster wise I’m worried about the lack of news around Brady. I don’t think we gave any snaps to an imp rb last week. Augustine struggled with blitz pick up a lot and we need good pass pro at rb with all the ol changes.

Yep. And dru brown was worse. Just as jittery, but he couldn’t even handle snaps or hand offs. Now he’s the next big thing potentially in the league.

Might but if he’s on the ir the can’t practice and I don’t think can be in film/meetings. Though that might be one of those rules no one follows. Gotta be patient with some qbs. I think it all comes down to his attitude and coach ability.

I loved dressler. As a rider I liked him as much as I could any rider player especially one who used to kill us. He was like buck pierce at wr but with a stronger surrounding cast. From a league stand point he should go in as a rider. If he chose us, I’d be thrilled he was a great player and great person.

Problem is at this point basically the only chance is to trade a real asset away to get that. Other wise we will wait for cuts and take a shot on a guy who is a fringe talent at best. not saying we shouldn’t do that, but I don’t think we will. Could be that one of the global DL from this year gets cut or put on a pr which would be solid too. I think menard is the Thomas of ends at this point. I don’t think we need a ni dl though it would be a big value to add. I think with Kramdi we have the ability to use that ratio flexibility else where. If our 6 game is going to save serious bucks, which it looks like, I’d consider giving a call to grant. I believe it was mos 2nd tc. They cut him in the off season and only brought him back a few weeks into the season. pretty much. I thought he had more to offer back then and was a reasonable back up / back end roster guy. But we always over play nis like that.

I’d love to ask mos why he cut Jake early on in his time here then

It’s all going to depend on how healthy Jake is. And if they are finally over the old boys club. or how far over it they are.

Collaros always seems to want lots of reps in the second pre season game. I bet he takes half plus a drive maybe more. I think strev still has adjustments and will play at least a few drives.

Not soo much but it is a factor. Heavier sloppy guys will lose more during the game, endurance is more its own thing. I’ve seen big belly guys with surprising motor. It does cause injury issues though. All that weight is hard on the joints. The difference in wear with just 20 lbs on the hips knees high ankle low back is extreme. he’s got sloppy weight especially on the torso, but he does have a big frame. He doesn’t need to lose massive amounts. Less than 10% total. I think for next years camp he will be pretty close to optimal.

Don’t think Kramdi will start. I think it’ll be Cole at Sam. But with ford, 3 ol, rb, 2 wrs we will be ok. As long as Brady is ok

He didn’t have by any means great technique in college. He wasn’t playing with near the leverage he did in preseason. Virtually every football player in the pros has been playing since early years. Raw still applies.

I’m not sure the criticism of schmekel was unfair. He really was awful last year. I think it’s fair to say he was put in a position he shouldn’t have been. This year, he’s playing at a level that deserves that type of role. Either way, I’m thrilled to have been wrong about him and look forward to what he does next. This. We need guys who buy in to the rotation and play like their hair is on fire when on the field and trust/communicate when they need a rest. The previous group with kongbo Hansen etc seemed to do that extremely well. Yep. De is much tougher, you can find dts who just mash fairly easy. If Lawson is out 6 Games(I hope it’s just roster shenanigans) I’d go two imp dt with shmekel backing up. We have the ni flexibility to do it with ease. I love the idea of ba as a dna, but with how he was last year still not being healthy I feel like his days are numbered. I have no expectations of him returning to form again.

That’s a good point the riders 2/3 team of ol is not good. But he wasn’t out there stoveing people either. What was most impressive was his quickness, motor and effort. He was getting in on the back of plays, just flying for a dt. we kept letting NTs and dts walk for pipeline guys. And it worked for a long time. But we never replaced stove. When he was here and hurt or after he left. We got too cute with dts. Then we lost Kongbo and didn’t rebuild the de rotation. Start of 2022 was the end of the high rotation, varied front looks that cooked offenses prior with no added rushers. Which allowed biggie to play mid field or a deep cover zone. That front change really took us from a generational defence to a solid defence that can’t close out.