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In the GC itself, yes. But I don't think they achieve 4 consecutive west division championships - without ZC under centre.

I think that is a great deal for the Stamps. Adams at $465k is a very good spend.

That's the joke....

So much this...

Zach has remained remarkably healthy in his 5 seasons in Wpg, never missing more than the occasional game and ensuring they've made it to the GC every season. Can't think of another QB that hasn't missed substantial playing time over the same time period.

I feel like the longer the oc search goes on, the more likely it is we are hiring from out side.

I think he wanted to show Don Sweeney that he made a big mistake not selecting him for the Four Nations Cup thingy....

Say what you will about collaros in grey cup games... he has had some good playoff games for this team.

Interesting. Probably wants to go back to Finland?

Samberg once in a while. If only Bauer had another set of particular skills.

oh yes....that too....whatever it takes...cheat...steal....pillage.....give er

yup IF we don't move on from a few guys......welllll the ol' rinse and repeat cycle will be in effect

Our guy has cup rings. VA...not so much. If/when VA puts those on his resume he can likely get ZC money. Teams don't pay 600-700k unless MOPs and GCs are on your resume.

Definitely. Grey Cup 25.

As much as I want to see re ups, right now I want to see us score a good oc

I feel like he's been good the last few west finals. 2019 was odd since he and streveler split time so much, 2021 west final was ugly for sure.

I will make an even better argument. (pause for effect) Argos suck, will continue to suck and will always suck, not from the Grey Cup as you suggested, but from things that aren't aesthetically pleasing nor smell well. Amen. Happy Holidays!

Could very well be. But do ppl even care about the four nations thingy lol

Actually his play off stats here over all are bad. Not just gc games. But he has had some good play off games like the west final this year. Which, if you look at his stats in the play offs here gets even more depressing. But that requires accepting that winning is more than some kind of personal player magic. Im consigned to the fact we will have zach back this coming season. I am however also optimistic that he can’t have a worse year than this last one. If our pass pro is at the level we saw down the stretch, all year next year and we have better game plans and play call from the oc any thing is possible. I think it’s possible with a good off season that we end up with a D that can carry us to gc wins. Id love to have a young franchise qb. But one isnt available. Wish we kept brown maybe next year.

It that really a high bar though?

Ryan Dinwiddie is 1 or 2 seasons from being the undisputed greatest Head Coach in Toronto Argonauts history. You could even make the argument now, but adding another 20ish wins basically makes it a moot point. He's only been here 4 years.

Wins are a team stat, not a QB stat. If VAJ was our QB, I'd say we'd have won the same number of GC's as we have with Collaros, maybe more. It's not like Collaros lit up the other teams.

Mike Reily was a good coach...smart....even keeled but also no none sense and ran the ship as should be...perform...or sit...age out....youth will jump over u.....and players loved him

Ohhhh Ic....I was thinking more of get it done = GC win in 25. That's what I want done by any means necessary. Mortgage that future, add another down, sell the team to the highest bidder....as long as they win the GC I'd be fine lol

Dinwiddie right now is Mike Riley. Young HC with two unlikely Grey Cups in three years.

Not just high but the guy left his feet... And to hit a guy that's smaller than him. I'd be pissed too.

He was already under contract for 2 yrs, he just took about 40k less in 24, so it did give stamps a break

Yea...could happen. With the plethora of good backups on the market this year, I would hope KW is going to grab us one of them. Football championships are always a collective effort. No doubt about that. However, some QBs tend to be able to lead their teams to more of them than others even if the stats don't necessarily show it. Sometimes its the timeliness of a play, for instance, or just a few minutes of greatness that make the difference between a VA and a ZC. Love him or hate him, I would take Fajardo as our back up for that reason. He sucks as a QB, but occasionally he gets hot and as Grey Cup 23 taught us he can sometimes get hot at exactly the right time. As a starter I wouldn't touch him with a 10 foot pole, but coming in off the bench he's a guy that might just win you the game if your starter goes down. All you ask from a backup.

I can think of several ways......regarding player signings....

only if you ignore the facts. Yes I know it's a team game. But VA has never been a starting QB on a team that won a divison...nevermind back to back. Never mind 5 times in a row. He's never started a GC, which of course makes it impossible for him to be a starting QB on a team that won back to back GCs and of course that makes it impossible for him to be a GC MVP as well. I get your point Booch. I actually think Collaros' contract is more of a hinderance to the team than any thing else. But VA is not and hasn't been at any point in his career (up until now) at the same level as Collaros. And I'm a VA fan for what it's worth and wouldn't have even been against bringing him in and trading ZC. but...VA has done exactly nothing in CGY. And that's why I don't see that contract as team friendly. It's about on par with what a starting QB is making, and like I said earlier maybe even a bit of an over pay. Time will tell with that.

it was a collective effort in the rings thjo...ZC played a key role for sure....to get there....but he never really has put the team on his back and carried them thru the play-offs.....and another yr older....can't see him doing it solo next yr either...he gonna need moocho help if he even gets thru 2025 unscathed...I have a feeling that 2025 is the yr he going down for some extended time....not wishing it by any means but just feel it

I'll add...get it done....right.....the key part

Arniel definitely wears his emotions on his sleeve as a coach. No issues with that. Sometimes I think the Jets need to play with more emotion. Sometimes it seems like they just go through the motions. But Arniel is about as Winnipeg as you can get for a coach. Came here young. Married a Winnipeg girl and stayed. Good to see the passion eventho in this particular case I think he was wrong as nobody forced Gus to drop his gloves but none the less. Nice to see a coach getting involved emotionally

Definitely not an overpay, but not exactly a discount either. Pretty fair deal for both sides imo.

I don't care when the Bombers get it done this offseason....just get it done.

I honestly don't think that's much of a "team friendly" deal. He's won some early season games...put up good numbers for half seasons and done nothing in the playoffs. That's essentially the going rate for a starting qb in the CFL with his pedigree. If anything, that miiiiiiight be a bit of an over pay. But that might be reaching a bit by me lol

https://calgarysun.com/sports/cavalry-forced-to-play-concacaf-home-leg-elsewhere-against-mexican-giant-pumas So, we have two billionaire owners in Calgary. Oil Baron Murray Edwards for the Stamps & the Southern family (ATCO) for Calvary FC. We have no facilities in Alberta to play this game here in February as the ground is frozen & it's minus 25. We can't move the game indoors. You'd thnk these two owners with their financial clout would get together, find a parcel of land & start planning a domed or retractable roof 40,000 seat facility for Calgary that is soccer friendly for Calvary FC & football oientated for the Stamps. But no. As usual, this city of nearly 2 million continues to have absolutely the worst sports facilities in North America for a city of it's size as tese owners just go about their business with no desire to build a facility that Calgary would be proud of. Calvary FC plays in a 5,000 seat facility in the deep south of Calgary that is 40 kms from someone who lives in the far NW or NE. It's not the easiest place to access at Spruce Meadows. Their stadium reminds me of old Osborne Stadium with it's peaked roof. Then there's the dump the Stamps play in. McMahon Stadium should have been torn down 20 years ago. There just isn't any long term, outside the box thinking here unlike other cities. I've been here for 34 years. When we moved here in 1990, there were 700,000 residents living in Calgary & there was this "can do" attitude. Now, years later that attitude is gone. We Calgarians like to smugly think of ourselves as "world class" city. We aren'r even close to that. This city is bloated at 1.7 million people. Winnipeg managed to get a new football stadium, arena & baseballl stadium. Here? Nothing like that ever gets done anymore unless it's a hockey arena. Even that took a decade to get done.

You' d think that Adams would have had enough of team friendly deals given how he got shown the door in BC despite his efforts You could argue that Collaros is the most overpaid qb in the league but I doubt if he does this

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Live sporting events are what streaming giants crave right now. WWE not exactly a sport, sort of but live weekly entertainment signed 10 years 5 billion with Netflix. I’d imagine cfl might be something one of them would have interest in.

they should show Osh face on the sideline near end of last 3 with that smuggy look of buffudlement and disbelief on his mug his plan didn't pan out....those are all blooper worthy

Yep, it's a bit early to be panicking. At this time of year, you'll get a few key guys signed (which we have already) and some TCF signed (which we have also done) but most of the signings come in January & February Compare what we did last year at this time to what we have done so far, it's a very normal start to the off-season. I'd actually say we're ahead of schedule by having 2 key guys (Castillo & Bryant), and another important guy (Jones) already locked up - last year we only really had Willie signed by this point. 2023 signings after GC: Nov 27 2023: Collin Kornelson, Max Charbonneau, Breton Macdougall, Jonathan Rosery Dec 7, 2023: Ronnie Blackmon Dec 11, 2023: Willie Jefferson Dec 19, 2023: Pat Neufeld Dec 20: 2023: Tanner Cadwallader, Redha Kramdi Dec 21: 2023: Deatrick Nichols, Anthony Blue Dec 22: 2023: Cam Lawson

GC was less than a month ago!!!!! WHY HAVEN"T WE SIGNED ALL THE FA YET?!?!?!?! If we don't sign GENO LEWIS AND MCMANIS BY THE END OF THE MONTH, NEXT YEAR WILL BE A DISASTER!!!!

Oh god that was Dee Alford in that clip? Covering Jefferson is never an easy task, but that was something else entirely.

Jake Thomas has not signed yet. Goalie online suicide watch day about 19

10 Canadian starters: Dobson, Kolankowski, Neufeld, Oliveira, Demski, Wolitarski, Thomas, Lawson, Kramdi & Ford. You can make the argument Jake shouldn’t be starting. Everyone else tho so really 9 starting calibre Canadians. Ppl can dislike certain guys but outside of Jake they all are starters.

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Who is saying that? No one. Don't twist things around to suit your narrative.

There are 20 days left this year https://deadline.com/2024/12/amazing-kreskin-dead-1236200513/