August 20, 201311 yr comment_16616 yeah and I was more pissed off than anyone when they dumped Glenn because Glenn could still play, Pierce can't play. There is no comeback story there. Best case scenario he gets his level of play back up to not as shitty as guys making their first career starts, but then you still have to deal with him being a walking injury case. Pierce is ****** in the head right now, he makes slow decisions and he is rendered completely ineffective by a blitz because of that hesitation. At least Goltz will give himself a chance by being able to move more and Hall seems to get the ball out of his hands quicker.
August 20, 201311 yr comment_16617 He's the number one QB until someone takes it from him and thus far, no one has. I hope Hall does this week. I just dont think he will. completey disagree. He was #1 because it was given to him, the other two qbs have outperformed him this year and he has done absolutely nothing to earn it.
August 20, 201311 yr comment_16619 just want to note that Goltz loss came from 2 good defenses - BC and CGY
August 20, 201311 yr Author comment_16620 So Goltz is the number one then? Oh... Mike, if I recall correctly, you were very pro-Buck until last season when you switched to Joey (as did I). Buck got us to the Grey Cup, then in came Crowton and whatever was going on between him and Lapo. It's all moot now because niether of us make the decision. But we've seen a QB get run out of town that everyone wished we had back and it just seems silly to repeat that mistake until a bonafide starter actually arrives. Even if Buck was gone, would we go into next season with Goltz & Hall and without a veteran? Never a bad idea to have a veteran, even if his best days are behind.
August 20, 201311 yr comment_16621 Wrong choice. And by the time the team realises it, the season will be truly lost. But I hope Hall has a hell of a game. I wouldn't say it's the wrong choice. It would have been the wrong choice to start Goltz but Hall showed enough to warrant another look. He just needs to learn not to force things when the team trails, and that will come with time.
August 20, 201311 yr comment_16622 Wrong choice. And by the time the team realises it, the season will be truly lost. But I hope Hall has a hell of a game. Judging by your posts and opinions you feel more like someone who hangs out at that other site . Anyways, thankfully we didn't go full circle back to Buck although I wouldn't be surprised if hes back in the lineup for LD. That's my biggest fear. I do NOT want to travel to Regina and have to sit through a game with that guy behind center. Mike, if you're going to the LDC to enjoy the game, you're gonna have a bad time.
August 20, 201311 yr comment_16623 So Goltz is the number one then? Oh... Mike, if I recall correctly, you were very pro-Buck until last season when you switched to Joey (as did I). Buck got us to the Grey Cup, then in came Crowton and whatever was going on between him and Lapo. It's all moot now because niether of us make the decision. But we've seen a QB get run out of town that everyone wished we had back and it just seems silly to repeat that mistake until a bonafide starter actually arrives. Even if Buck was gone, would we go into next season with Goltz & Hall and without a veteran? Never a bad idea to have a veteran, even if his best days are behind. You mean he was along for the ride. I was always very supportive of Buck when he was playing alright. I wanted him to succeed and while he was never an elite level QB for us, he at least did an okay job of managing things for us while he was in the lineup. Unfortunately, since the Banjo Bowl two years ago when he threw 5 picks and got lit up by Craig Butler, he's never been the same. His numbers since that game do not deserve my support. Buck has never been an on-field leader for us on a consistent basis and while he played at a higher level for us a few years ago, his mental and physical game has broken down so much that he's just no longer a viable option. The coaches spent all offseason designing a max protection offense to basically keep him healthy and in the game at the cost of production. It didn't work because it's not an effective scheme for his skillset or what's left of it. They took the reins off and let him play HIS game and it got him injured after one half of football. He's just not durable enough to play the style of football that gives him the best chance at being effective anymore. Keeping him safe comes at the cost of rendering him useless.
August 20, 201311 yr Author comment_16626 If we had a better O line, few injuries on receiver and a better CFL style Offence designed to take advantage of his skillset, do you believe he'd fail? Or is it just the injury issue? Max Hall got hurt in one game this season. It happens to everyone. Buck was ready to come back. I wouldnt hang "injury" on him this year.
August 20, 201311 yr comment_16637 Darren Cameron @Darren_Cameron 24s Max Hall will start Saturday in Guelph against the @Ticats #Bombers.
August 20, 201311 yr comment_16639 Great decision... Hall is our best option right now - plus we will start seeing if Crowton was the problem or if Hall is another interception machine... Get a fourth QB in camp already!!!
August 20, 201311 yr comment_16643 According to Toth, the gave some thought to starting Goltz as well. That's really good news to me b/c it means Pierce wasn't even in the discussion.
August 20, 201311 yr comment_16646 So Goltz is the number one then? Oh... Mike, if I recall correctly, you were very pro-Buck until last season when you switched to Joey (as did I). Buck got us to the Grey Cup, then in came Crowton and whatever was going on between him and Lapo. It's all moot now because niether of us make the decision. But we've seen a QB get run out of town that everyone wished we had back and it just seems silly to repeat that mistake until a bonafide starter actually arrives. Even if Buck was gone, would we go into next season with Goltz & Hall and without a veteran? Never a bad idea to have a veteran, even if his best days are behind. Yup...it's a great idea to pay a guy starter's money when he's not good enough to start!
August 20, 201311 yr comment_16648 Great decision... Hall is our best option right now - plus we will start seeing if Crowton was the problem or if Hall is another interception machine... Get a fourth QB in camp already!!! with Bellfail in as OC, I expect a call has already been placed to Quinton Porter.
August 20, 201311 yr comment_16649 According to Toth, the gave some thought to starting Goltz as well. That's really good news to me b/c it means Pierce wasn't even in the discussion. Hopefully he is #2, I have a feeling we will see the backup. Looks like the snack of choice will be Quacker Jacks for the next Killer griller Gameday Extravaganza.
August 20, 201311 yr comment_16652 Our 2nd half adjustments have been atrocious all season, on the offensive side of the ball, so it'll be real interesting to see if we're actually able to get some momentum in the 2nd half... Wait, there's TWO halves?
August 20, 201311 yr comment_16654 Great decision... Hall is our best option right now - plus we will start seeing if Crowton was the problem or if Hall is another interception machine... Get a fourth QB in camp already!!! This is what I want and right away...so we can release Buck.
August 20, 201311 yr comment_16655 Impressed that the Bombers didn't cave to pressure and put Buck back in. Hall gets a 2nd start, and we can go from there. So could we put an end to the whole Buck should be #1 thing until after the friggin game at least. The team has made their choice, so accept it for whatever amount of time it lasts.
August 20, 201311 yr Author comment_16656 Im a diehard Bombers fan so I hope Max Hall lights it up on Saturday.
August 20, 201311 yr comment_16657 Buck was bad last year and mediocre the year before.... Buck also had healthy receivers this season and could not perform..... Unknown poster is just trolling because no one normal would back buck this much. Just stirring the pot.
August 20, 201311 yr comment_16658 does anyone know why Buck came in for one series? I couldn't figure that one out. He came close to getting a first down so that was at least something positive. If he had thrown the ball to Denmark properly we would have gotten the first down.
August 20, 201311 yr comment_16659 does anyone know why Buck came in for one series? I couldn't figure that one out. He came close to getting a first down so that was at least something positive. If he had thrown the ball to Denmark properly we would have gotten the first down. Hall got hurt on the previous series.
August 20, 201311 yr comment_16660 Even if we don't get the W this week, here's hoping Hall shows continued progress, and does enough to earn continued starts. At this point, it's all we can really ask for. Wins are a bonus.
August 20, 201311 yr Author comment_16661 Buck was bad last year and mediocre the year before.... Buck also had healthy receivers this season and could not perform..... Unknown poster is just trolling because no one normal would back buck this much. Just stirring the pot. I'm a troll? Id tell you to GFY but that probably violates some board rules. Funny how "doesnt share same opinion" always = "troll". HA!
August 20, 201311 yr comment_16663 Great decision... Hall is our best option right now - plus we will start seeing if Crowton was the problem or if Hall is another interception machine... Get a fourth QB in camp already!!! with Bellfail in as OC, I expect a call has already been placed to Quinton Porter. I was kind of wondering about that... but one would almost wonder if Bellefuille has had enough of the Porter experiment - he probably shudders when he looks at Goltz's film as he's pretty close to a Porter-style QB... Then again, who else is out there...? Not much.
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