November 17, 201410 yr comment_95153 Take the best player available. If it's Demski, take him. If it's an Oline, take him. This having to take this guy or this position crap is part of the reason we are what we are right now Its not like we have a bunch of all star canadians anywhere on the roster. Obviously, you haven't been following the Bombers drafts. We used 1 high draft pick on Pencer (Stupid pick) and 1 on Goosen (TBD) in the last 6 years. and a bunch taken in the later rounds like every team does, what's your damn point? The damn point is we haven't been drafting by position. We've been drafting the best available players.
November 17, 201410 yr comment_95154 Meanwhile In Calgary... Jones, Craighead, Lavertu & Bergman. It's not where you draft, it's who you draft. and how you develop them.
November 17, 201410 yr comment_95162 I'd take Demski for sure, But I'm not convinced he's still there when we pick, I think it's likely he goes 1st overall to Ottawa. Gotta agree with this- Ottawa's bigger problem was not the O-line, but receivers, and NI receivers at that, so it would make sense for Ottawa to take Demski. But Desjardins has defied logic before.
November 17, 201410 yr comment_95168 Take the best player available. If it's Demski, take him. If it's an Oline, take him. This having to take this guy or this position crap is part of the reason we are what we are right now Its not like we have a bunch of all star canadians anywhere on the roster. Obviously, you haven't been following the Bombers drafts. We used 1 high draft pick on Pencer (Stupid pick) and 1 on Goosen (TBD) in the last 6 years. and a bunch taken in the later rounds like every team does, what's your damn point? The damn point is we haven't been drafting by position. We've been drafting the best available players. Pencer, Etienne...yep, we've been drafting the best available players for a long time around these parts....
November 17, 201410 yr comment_95178 Im in agreement of build the lines first and foremost.. Unless there is an absolute stud at a "non-traditional" roles... I simply don't know enough about Demski but i do think we can grab him and a very good prospect at 11 and later..Isn't that a little young to be drafted? Wah Wah Wah waaaaaaah.... Bah-dum *Ching!*
November 17, 201410 yr comment_95184 I don't mind the idea of us ignoring a chronic positional need in the draft IF Walters goes ball to the wall in FA for OL. Don't care what avenue we use to improve our OL. It must be done though. Demski would be a very nice pick but I think once it all shakes out he will end up going number one.
November 17, 201410 yr comment_95193 Throwing a curve ball here but I can see someone offering a sweet deal to move up for Demski. Maybe we end up with two early picks in a good draft? What would a fair price be that benefits the Bombers?
November 17, 201410 yr comment_95194 I'm with the Demski for the 2nd overall camp. Pick OLs on the 11th and the 20th. If the Bombers really need to shore up the OL for next year's campaign, we need a vet or 2, who can play right away.
November 17, 201410 yr comment_95200 You can't blame the process for the selections that were made. A bad pick is just that.
November 17, 201410 yr comment_95203 Demski slowly venturing into overrated territory around here. My argument isn't just about Demski b/c I don't know if he's the second best player in the draft or not. My point is that if he is the second best player in the draft we should take him second overall.
November 17, 201410 yr comment_95212 Demski slowly venturing into overrated territory around here. Same with Goodrich It's Because they're from Winnipeg
November 17, 201410 yr comment_95213 Demski slowly venturing into overrated territory around here. Same with Goodrich It's Because they're from Winnipeg They're both very good. But realistically, this talk of Demski going #1 is premature. At least until the combine.
November 17, 201410 yr comment_95222 The damn point is we haven't been drafting by position. We've been drafting the best available players. Pencer, Etienne...yep, we've been drafting the best available players for a long time around these parts.... Sadly, those are the guys Mack thought were the best available players.
November 17, 201410 yr comment_95242 Seems to me drafting a starting OL means he is one of the best players available.
November 17, 201410 yr comment_95248 Demski isn't any better than Coombs. I'd prefer not to take a guy just because he's from Winnipeg, but if there aren't any O-linemen worthy of being picked number two I'd be okay with taking him.
November 17, 201410 yr comment_95253 Groulx is a guy I would like to see over Demski big strong and the most important thing mean. Can play tackle. NFL threat may be too high though.
November 17, 201410 yr comment_95254 If/when we get to the point where we have 7 good NI starters, then we can afford to take the best player. Until then put me on the best O lineman, not best player side. Folks around here want the Bombers to pick Demski, who they consider the best player. They don't seem to understand that good teams a built from the lines out. We've had a bunch of GM's who followed the best player, in their minds, strategy and it's only worked once with Muamba. Meanwhile, we've had a poor O line for years. Your post makes no sense. How do you get 7 good NI starters if you don't take the best player available (with consideration to availability around the NFL factored in)? Having a bunch of OL who might be ready to play in 2-3 years (right when they become free agents) won't help us. Gotta draft and develop those mid-round guys into being players. How many 1st round picks on Calgary's OL or Saskatchewan's? We desperately need players who can play now regardless of position. That is how the good teams approach the draft. It makes complete sense. Apparently the idea revolves around having 7 NIs start on the Oline...
November 17, 201410 yr comment_95257 The idea is to fix the O line first, because everything on offense starts at the O line.
November 17, 201410 yr comment_95258 If we want to fix the OL for next season, it won't be through the draft. That's the reality. That's why I say you take the best player available, regardless of position. If we get a Canadian starter at a different position, that could allow us to start an additional American OL and if we recruit properly that could go further towards giving us a better overall OL than any first-year Canadian OL would.
November 17, 201410 yr comment_95259 The damn point is we haven't been drafting by position. We've been drafting the best available players. Pencer, Etienne...yep, we've been drafting the best available players for a long time around these parts.... Sadly, those are the guys Mack thought were the best available players. So you're being critical of Walters based on one draft then? Because if that's the case your argument is pretty weak, as usual, nevermind that it's incorrect since we drafted an o-lineman with our first pick in this past draft. What's your angle for your argument exactly?
November 17, 201410 yr comment_95263 Last draft was pretty good. Got three guys out of 5 that made the roster. Derek Jones could push for a starters spot next year. Briggs should be a decent SP teamer. With Everett coming into to camp after a great season at Mount Allison. Along with LH as a rookie free agent was a good year.
November 17, 201410 yr comment_95287 The damn point is we haven't been drafting by position. We've been drafting the best available players. Pencer, Etienne...yep, we've been drafting the best available players for a long time around these parts.... Sadly, those are the guys Mack thought were the best available players. So you're being critical of Walters based on one draft then? Because if that's the case your argument is pretty weak, as usual, nevermind that it's incorrect since we drafted an o-lineman with our first pick in this past draft. What's your angle for your argument exactly? Critical of Walters? WTF? How the heck did you get that from what I've typed? Walters didn't go with the best available player or even the best available O lineman. He went with the best available center who was ranked 9th because that's our greatest need. I completely agree with Walters decision. Walters also said he'd draft an O lineman high and another one late in the draft. I agree with that too.
November 17, 201410 yr comment_95296 The idea is to fix the O line first, because everything on offense starts at the O line. Seems like last year the same thing was said about the quarterback. We need to draft Olinemen and we need better play from our Oline, but it's myopic to continue to insist in mid-November that 23 weeks from now we have to use the #2 overall pick on an Olineman, regardless of all information or decisions that happen between now and then, or this organization has failed. Stop dealing in absolutes.
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