Posted November 14, 201311 yr comment_29173 It's been widely speculated that Khari Jones will be the next head coach of the WBB's. Many here have provided their views on what type of head coach he'd make and if he's even ready to take on that role. So feel free to provide your input on what you see as to the pros and cons. Pros Extensive CFL playing experience (specifically at the QB position) Appeared to be a cerebral player who understood the game better vs. one who dominated it because of physical attributes Spent a lot of time on the sidelines which gives a player a good opportunity to learn how to coach Endeared himself to the city while he was here Maybe Ray would return and post again As an ex QB, I believe it gives him a good knowledge of both sides of the ball Cons Limited coaching experience His past OC position wasn't what we would call successful So far I haven't seen that "take charge" demonstrative attitude from him in his coaching roles. The perceived relationship between him and Miller Feel free to provide your view.
November 14, 201311 yr comment_29177 A wild theory: Maybe Miller asked Khari to chat it up with Drew Willy about making a run from Greensville. Honestly though, those cons are hard to ignore.
November 14, 201311 yr comment_29178 The biggest problem is a rookie coach taking on a full rebuild. He will have to have a complete experienced coaching staff to lean on for success. We can't afford any more learning on the fly... Also a qb would help
November 14, 201311 yr comment_29180 Wouldn't judge him by his time as "OC" in Hamilton. It was Bellefeuille's offence. I think he did a good job with both QB's there and helped turn marginal prospects into players, like Bakari Grant.
November 14, 201311 yr comment_29181 It's been widely speculated that Khari Jones will be the next head coach of the WBB's. Many here have provided their views on what type of head coach he'd make and if he's even ready to take on that role. So feel free to provide your input on what you see as to the pros and cons. Pros Extensive CFL playing experience (specifically at the QB position) Appeared to be a cerebral player who understood the game better vs. one who dominated it because of physical attributes Spent a lot of time on the sidelines which gives a player a good opportunity to learn how to coach Endeared himself to the city while he was here Maybe Ray would return and post again As an ex QB, I believe it gives him a good knowledge of both sides of the ball Cons Limited coaching experience His past OC position wasn't what we would call successful So far I haven't seen that "take charge" demonstrative attitude from him in his coaching roles. The perceived relationship between him and Miller Feel free to provide your view. but it wasn't unsucessful either. I mean it was Kevin Glenn in Hamilton let's not forget. They were a decent offense if memory serves. Nothing outstanding but not terrible either. I don't think that's so bad considering, especially for his first go running an offence.
November 14, 201311 yr comment_29186 I'm no totally against hiring a rookie head coach but there is definitely a learning curve there in terms of in game decisions. And there's no promise he ever gets a hang of it. Lapo had some screw ups in his first year as a coach, Burke obviously did and if we hire Khari we better be prepared for at least a few hiccups.
November 14, 201311 yr Author comment_29187 Okay...the Hamilton offence wasn't a disaster but you also have to look at what Khari got out of Kevin Glen vs. what Hufnagel and Dickenson is getting out of him today. I just can't get a good handle on what type of game manager Khari would be. If I believe correctly, Khari didn't like to call his own plays when he was a QB but I do remember that he was always given veto power to change the play if felt he needed to. I just wish we had the benefit of a longer resume.
November 14, 201311 yr comment_29188 Humm sure wouldn't it be weird having KJ as the head coach now and MB as the OC. Reverse as what they were in Hamilton ha ha.
November 14, 201311 yr comment_29189 It's been widely speculated that Khari Jones will be the next head coach of the WBB's. Many here have provided their views on what type of head coach he'd make and if he's even ready to take on that role. So feel free to provide your input on what you see as to the pros and cons. Pros Extensive CFL playing experience (specifically at the QB position) Appeared to be a cerebral player who understood the game better vs. one who dominated it because of physical attributes Spent a lot of time on the sidelines which gives a player a good opportunity to learn how to coach Endeared himself to the city while he was here Maybe Ray would return and post again As an ex QB, I believe it gives him a good knowledge of both sides of the ball Cons Limited coaching experience His past OC position wasn't what we would call successful So far I haven't seen that "take charge" demonstrative attitude from him in his coaching roles. The perceived relationship between him and Miller Feel free to provide your view. but it wasn't unsucessful either. I mean it was Kevin Glenn in Hamilton let's not forget. They were a decent offense if memory serves. Nothing outstanding but not terrible either. I don't think that's so bad considering, especially for his first go running an offence. It's worth noting though that Glenn's numbers were considerably better in 2010 vs. 2011 when Khari was the OC.
November 14, 201311 yr comment_29191 Okay...the Hamilton offence wasn't a disaster but you also have to look at what Khari got out of Kevin Glen vs. what Hufnagel and Dickenson is getting out of him today. I just can't get a good handle on what type of game manager Khari would be. If I believe correctly, Khari didn't like to call his own plays when he was a QB but I do remember that he was always given veto power to change the play if felt he needed to. I just wish we had the benefit of a longer resume. That's really what it comes down to, we really don't know a lot about Kharis ability as a coach. QB coaches are very much behind the scenes kind of guys and he only had that one year as an offensive coordinator. Based on what he was like as a quarterback though... there's a lot of intrigue there. Plus your point about maybe getting Ray to post again would be most welcome.
November 14, 201311 yr comment_29192 The biggest problem is a rookie coach taking on a full rebuild. He will have to have a complete experienced coaching staff to lean on for success. We can't afford any more learning on the fly... Also a qb would help This is the single biggest "but" against Khari. He is bright, personable, and when he was a quarterback, he was my kind of player who had good but not great physical tools and relied on preparation and smarts to win games. Describes Huffer and Wally to a tee.
November 14, 201311 yr comment_29193 Maybe Ray would return and post again That would be nice. Been missing that guy's posts but, I thought, maybe 'that's just me'.
November 15, 201311 yr comment_29200 Hootie Ray J is the ****...love that guy. Y'know what my biggest concern would be with Khari as HC?? My memory of him is the king of this town. He was a GREAT quarterback until we ****** up his career with a terrible OL that got him killed out there after too many hits. My biggest fear is tarnishing his legacy if he comes in here and just bombs as an HC. You know how quickly the idiots around here like to tar and feather a guy and run him outta town. It was painful enough the first time...I don't wanna go through it again.
November 15, 201311 yr comment_29205 Hootie Ray J is the ****...love that guy. Y'know what my biggest concern would be with Khari as HC?? My memory of him is the king of this town. He was a GREAT quarterback until we ****** up his career with a terrible OL that got him killed out there after too many hits. My biggest fear is tarnishing his legacy if he comes in here and just bombs as an HC. You know how quickly the idiots around here like to tar and feather a guy and run him outta town. It was painful enough the first time...I don't wanna go through it again. Could be like when Matty coached in Calgary
November 15, 201311 yr Author comment_29207 I think with a different ownership group in Calgary, Matty could have succeeded. But he wore too many hats and was forced to play the owners son at QB. He had no real GM and he's admitted that he didn't surround himself with the right qualified people. Remember that Rick Flair look alike that was his ST's coach I believe. Khari could definitely succeed as a head coach but it his success will be tied to the coaches he surrounds himself with. Maybe he could hire his dad as a consultant.
November 15, 201311 yr comment_29209 I see Khari as a Pinball Clemons type of leader ... and I believe we need that smiling positivity more than anything
November 15, 201311 yr comment_29212 He did get run out of town the first time. But the truth is he was shot. Whether it was the fans or Taman or the media or whoever, they were right to replace him and trade him. He had nothing left and he struggled in three other places.
November 15, 201311 yr comment_29215 Another thing to remember, Hamilton's TD red zone success rate was 77% under Khari.
November 15, 201311 yr comment_29216 Another thing to remember, Hamilton's TD red zone success rate was 77% under Khari. Remember Goltz's TD Red Zone % was #1 in the league this season prior to him being benched..... so that point is fairly moot....
November 15, 201311 yr comment_29217 Fans will remember KJ the player. And what he brought to the Bombers back then. Being a coach is a totally different thing... He'll be judged by totally different parameters. If he surrounds himself with great coaches he'll be okay. Not try to do too much & to trust his coaches... That was Matt Dunigan's downfall. No. trust the the coaches he hired could do the job & the need to be a total control freak. Huff is a success because he trusts his coaches to coach. And all the coaches he has are individually great coaches themselves.
November 15, 201311 yr comment_29219 Another thing to remember, Hamilton's TD red zone success rate was 77% under Khari. Remember Goltz's TD Red Zone % was #1 in the league this season prior to him being benched..... so that point is fairly moot.... Goltz was asked to do much more as a starter & couldn't do it. And he needed his attitude adjusted. The mistake made by Burke was to not put him back in third down situations after he was sat for a couple of games to see if he had changed. Unless they felt he hadn't.
November 15, 201311 yr comment_29225 Another thing to remember, Hamilton's TD red zone success rate was 77% under Khari. Remember Goltz's TD Red Zone % was #1 in the league this season prior to him being benched..... so that point is fairly moot.... Goltz was a glorified running back at best, so that counter point is moot.
November 15, 201311 yr comment_29230 4 years as a QB coach and 1 as an OC hardly equals a HC resume..........we know that Wade has great respect for Khari but, he really needs to stop and think about this.
November 15, 201311 yr comment_29232 Im slowly liking Khari as HC more and more. He just really needs an experienced staff to work with for me to be happy about it.
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