HardCoreBlue

I wish that were true but no, it will not be positive simply for the fact that Dallas doesn't have to account for him in their game plan.

You think they keep all of them around? Unless Grigsby got some balls surgically added in the offseason he's not as good as the other two guys. I was thinking a similar thing. He may not make it out of camp. I'm assuming no guarantees were given to him.

I'm just asking out loud. With all the goaltenders who presently play in the NHL, I wonder if Vancouver is at all interested in acquiring Pavelec with Miller down? Maybe it could be a win, win, win. Win for Vancouver, Win for Winnipeg, Win for Pavelec himself with a change of scenery. I don't know enough about Vancouver's team to answer this question in terms of their farm system and cap situation. Would it be too risky for us to part ways with one of our starting goaltenders? It seems like we're pretty good with our goaltenders in our system.

That wrap around by Khadri had Hutch doing the happy feet.

Yes, yes he does.

Hutch gets a shut-out, Stafford has a huge game, Ladd fights, Trouba plays lights out, Buff vaporizes someone, mayb, hopefully Phaneuf, Meyers scores from centre, Lowry collects three assists, Slater is unbelievable on the PK, Little has the puck on a string all night. Or not, and the Leafs win, Sunday is ugly for us Jet fans, that horrible, knawing feeling of oh oh. However tonight unfolds, Leafs commentary believes the Leafs are one or two key pieces away from being elite, what's with Kessel talk, is Nonis a genius or a buffoon, probably a few mentions of Wendall Clark and 'Dougie' Gilmore. No mention of the Jets, well maybe a few comments about Kane, the recent poll of no one wants to play here and our push to the playoffs.

True dat.

My key uncertainity with him is his fit in the lockerroom. Based on his history, has he grown more into a professional hockey player, team first attitude? How was that element of his game been in the KHL? Completely from a homer perspective, we're building something special here in how tight these players seem to be. Yes winning solves everything but even that isn't enough. Being here in Edmonton, there appears to be little chemistry within the Oilers team, loads of individual talent but no connection. The Jets are leaps and bounds ahead of the curve when it comes to this imo. My hunch tells me to dangle him in front of another team to allow us to tinker with a character we always need to add , i.e., proud to jersey regardless of 'you want me to play how', it's-30 degrees, there's lots of snow, jeez this Canadian Dollar, my kids can't go to the beach in February, etc etc

And people are responding by saying he's proven to be mediocre. That's all he's proven in his CFL career. So why not go with someone who has yet to prove what they can do, but have looked decent/exciting in their limited time? We all know what KG brings to the table. And it isn't good enough to get the team to where everyone wants to get to as a back up or starter, even while playing with teams that were arguably better than the current bombers. Brohm looked decent and even Marve played well against calgary late last year (cgy's effort suspect in that game). So why settle? when you need to move past mediocre. Mediocre (like has been said on this topic already) should no longer be an option to this franchise. Because some people are tired of rushing quarterbacks gambling that they can be good when in reality gambling and rushing qbs usually ends in disaster. I'm interpreting the use of the word 'rushing' as if a team didn't 'rush' a QB, then different story in how he pans pans out. I'm sure you'd agree though that sometimes, not always, but sometimes QB's not consistently playing to level needed to stick in this league (or being an Elite QB) has nothing to due with rushing them. It has to do with them not being good enough to play at a certain level (e.g., Max Hall comes to mind for not Sticking and Kevin Glenn comes to mind in not being an Elite CFL QB). I would like you to name me ONE backup QB that is elite. I don't think anyone here, in this entire thread has suggested that. When first or second year QBs are thrown into the position of having to be number one...that is generally a recipe for disaster. Not always, but more often than not. Just to be clear, all I'm suggesting with Kevin Glenn is when he was a starter wasn't good enough to be tagged with the Elite status. As for your statement about first or second year QB's being thrust into a starter role when not ready, yes, sometimes it would have turned out different for them if patience was shown. The big however is sometimes first or second year QB's simply are not good enough to stick regardless of how much patience was or wasn't shown. I'm just suggesting we can't generalize the impact of thrusting someone early in their career into a starters role as the main reason for their demise.

I think any discussion for Eberle starts with two of Trouba, Morissey, Ehlers, Petan. Myers. Not that I want to give up that much, but I think that is what Edmonton would be asking for. Watching Eberle over the years, not a huge fan. Yes, high point total (39pts 57 games) and yes very very soft hands but very soft when it gets physical. Just doesn't seem to play the style PM has put in place. Definitely would not sell the house to acquire his services whereas if Lucic came available . . . Lucic has gotta be the most overrated player in the NHL Completely disagree with you, I love the way he plays notwithstanding some of his antics. As far as I know (but I'm willing to be corrected), when they poll NHL players (who probably would know the best) on whose the most current 'overrarted' player in the NHL, Lucic is not top of the list. I believe Rick Nash and Dion Phaneuf are the usual culprits.

And people are responding by saying he's proven to be mediocre. That's all he's proven in his CFL career. So why not go with someone who has yet to prove what they can do, but have looked decent/exciting in their limited time? We all know what KG brings to the table. And it isn't good enough to get the team to where everyone wants to get to as a back up or starter, even while playing with teams that were arguably better than the current bombers. Brohm looked decent and even Marve played well against calgary late last year (cgy's effort suspect in that game). So why settle? when you need to move past mediocre. Mediocre (like has been said on this topic already) should no longer be an option to this franchise. Because some people are tired of rushing quarterbacks gambling that they can be good when in reality gambling and rushing qbs usually ends in disaster. I'm interpreting the use of the word 'rushing' as if a team didn't 'rush' a QB, then different story in how he pans pans out. I'm sure you'd agree though that sometimes, not always, but sometimes QB's not consistently playing to level needed to stick in this league (or being an Elite QB) has nothing to due with rushing them. It has to do with them not being good enough to play at a certain level (e.g., Max Hall comes to mind for not Sticking and Kevin Glenn comes to mind in not being an Elite CFL QB).

I think any discussion for Eberle starts with two of Trouba, Morissey, Ehlers, Petan. Myers. Not that I want to give up that much, but I think that is what Edmonton would be asking for. Watching Eberle over the years, not a huge fan. Yes, high point total (39pts 57 games) and yes very very soft hands but very soft when it gets physical. Just doesn't seem to play the style PM has put in place. Definitely would not sell the house to acquire his services whereas if Lucic came available . . .

Yup, considering you have to give something to get something. The however is where's Vermette's head space with his future. Something I'd want to know if he's willing to share. Chevy comes across as a good communicator so he'd ask the right questions to tease this out if possible.

Would Stafford be considered a 'rental'? Hard to say. My guess is Chevy brings in guys he believes he has a realistic chance to re-sign. If he goes for a guy like Vermette that would tell me something.

Tate is a hot-head, but for the same price, I'd probably prefer Tate. I think a change in scenery may help Tate. I'd definitely take him.

Actually, never thought of that comparison, makes sense. You got me thinking. I'll go deeper into the Jets future, how about Dougie Smail but with hands?

May be the fact that Kane is unavailable to play until next year. This makes it difficult for a fan who follows their Sabres to feel they received something good in return. As Kane/Meyers were the central figures, no instant 'gratification' for Sabres fans so to speak.

I just don't see Glenn wanting to sign here even if it comes down to Winnipeg being the only team showing serious interest.

LMAO at one of the comments. Kane, Scheifele and Morrissey for Kessel

Not if the Jets can get back to winning consistently like they were before. Why would our GM feel pressured if his existing squad is doing well, knowing there is always room for improvement. Again, the pressure will mount if the L's continue to mount.

a third rounder, how generous of you. Johansen has way way way way way way way way more value than Kane and Postma isn't enough to bridge that gap. okay, I'd throw in Pardy too.... Seriously, upgrade to a 2nd rounder and make the deal although he is out 4-6 months now with shoulder surgery so this will be done in the off season where the Jets get more back for him. I am guessing it will happen before the draft or on draft day. upgrade it to the Jets first rounder and the Blue Jackets might not immediately hang up the phone but I think you are really over estimating how much value a known problem child in Kane is going to have, especially when you consider that Johansen has done nothing but up his value in recent years. Being a guy who can play top line centre he automatically holds more value than a winger, never mind that he's gotten better and better where as Kane hasn't and is a massive gamble because of his attitude. Pardy and Postma are throw ins that every team has. You are going to be disappointed in the return Kane gets I guarantee it. Teams will want him, but they'll want him at a discount price. If that's true and if I'm Chevy, I'm not letting him go at a discount price. He's under contract. If he demands a trade, we would still be in the drivers seat. The big however is if the Jets continue to falter as they are and with Kane now out of the lineup for possibly an extended period of time (injury), management may feel pressured to figure out how to replace him (i.e., seeing if there are any takers). Selfishly, my hope is the Jets start to get back into the W column consistently, taking some of the immediacy away from dealing with the Kane situation.

$5M just doesn't buy what it used to. What I've noticed overtime with Evander Kane is he loves the spotlight. He tends to elevate his game when he plays higher profile teams like the Rangers, Kings, Blackhawks etc. If we were ever to trade him, my guess is he would love to play for a higher profile team that may benefit us in what we get in return.

Check and Check.

Ask the Sabres . . .

I love Paul Maurice's line to Scott Oake's question of what was said in the dressing room between periods: 'Not for public consumption' I also liked his back body checks into the glass while chirping to his team. He's a gamer, I love the way he mix's calm with emotion. Hoping this is just a blip on our way to the playoffs.