Brandon

Patience .... it's almost a given that both are gone at the end of the season.

Toronto?

And I stopped reading right there.... a hold over... so 1 week is a hold over... also no mentioning that Mack told Lapolice YOU NEED A DEDICATED OC... Lapo SELECTED Crowton.. it was Lapo's guy. All that other stuff is nonsense and sounds like a lot of BS... almost Nate like in just throwing crap out and hoping to be right about something.

18/30 241 yards 1 td - 2 int 18/32 250 yards 2 td - 0 int 12/30 147 yards 0 td - 2 int 16/28 223 yards 1 td - 3 int 4 qbs who played this week.... which one had the best completion % and nearly the most yards..... He did way more then someone else making his CFL debut despite that guy being in the league for 3 years and backing up a legend that he could of learned lots from.... He had better stats then an all star QB with a fantastic o line and great rb... Almost had as good as stats as a guy in Saskatchewan who is playing behind a way better o line with much better talent at receiver..... Perhaps Max didn't do as bad as some people made him out to be.....even with the noodle arm he still managed to top Lulay, Durant , Niesomethingwander.....

No slack for Burke... the guy looks lost and way over his head... the OC wasn't the reason for him doing this. If he can't manage a team with both the offense and defense then he should stick to being a coordinator.

Long story short.... more then 50% of the fans are actually hoping that Buck goes down with an injury so that we can move forward with someone else. That is a very sad but truthful statement. I don't want to wish pain for anyone, but man would it benefit the club with Buck out of the picture.

Kavis Reed just got an extension literally a month ago....

The funny thing was that Ricky Ray was doing this all night long... I think he was 17/17 at one point .... but he was doing his same old dink and dunk passes... the difference was Edmonton could not tackle for shite and the YAC that Owens and Durie were getting really hurt the Eskimos. Also lots of ill timed penalties from both clubs .... the games score made it seem a bit closer then what it was...

So any chance of Elliott coming back next season?

51 yards of passing came on throwing into triple coverage, and completing the pass on a double tip drill. 9 times out of 10 it was an INT. Sometimes the breaks fall for you sometimes they don't... at least he moved the ball. It's to bad that Ricky did an even better job.

Wow Reilly had more yards in this one game then our qbs have had in the last 3 combined! Definitely has a strong arm and quite a gunslinger , it's unfortunate that we didn't sign him because he seems to have a good future. That being said Marshall defense was picked on big time by playing so soft... those dink and dunk passes by Ray were money all night and some easy YAC. Edmontons receivers came up big with some great long ball receptions... Overall a fun game to watch with both teams having issues on defense..

Just watched the game and Glenn looked OK, in the third quarter he had four passes in a row that his receivers flat out dropped.... I think he played good and doubt that Calgary will trade him

I have to say, I wonder why people around here like Howell so much. He sure hasn't helped Matthews this year. Or Denmark. Or Poblah. I'd get rid of Howell too. I think folks like him because he's a great community guy?

and if you don't throw missiles you can't win? Give us a break...Jyles for one! and many others Hey if we had the kind of stats that Jyles had with us we would be sitting at 500 minimum.... 19 tds to 7 ints is pretty damn good!

Aside from the fact that Saskatchewan has a fantastic offense and we had a pitiful offense and only won many of those games with superb performances from the D...

Everyone knew this was going to happen, not a shocker at all. The writing was on the wall when MB came as a consultant. As for who choose Crowton it was LaPo and all that other junk is nonsense. And who really cares Lapo was a genius on offense and he couldn't do sweet F all so he sucked just as much as Crowton. Time to move forward and I think MB's impact will only start to show maybe in 3 - 4 games from now... cant expect him to create a miracle over night.

From my very foggy memory as I don't want to remember that ugly season. I seem to remember our defense keeping us in close on many games but being on the field for far to long and the points piling up a lot in the 4th quarter when they were tired. Mostly because of the offense being absolutely putrid and lots of 2 and outs... a trend that has not gone away since then. Looking at the old stats... wow our offense really was putrid with Kelly. We had a 47% completion for our passing game! Last in the league for time of possession and a whole bunch of stats for the offence. The defense lead the league in int's and were near the top on lots of the good stats such as average yard per pass/run against them. The accumulative stats though they were at the bottom for most. Not really their fault considering they were on the field for more then 200 plays then the 2nd last team in the league!!!

So Calvillo had games like that this season as well what's your point? Mike clearly pointed out Goltz moving the ball much better then Pierce so why you talk to cray-cray and write so much poop on here?

What does that have to do with our defense and/or getting rid of Creehan and replacing him with a new DC????

And yet we had MANY all stars during that period despite a poor record. Only lack of talent we have had is at QB during that time period..... Considering... RB - Chad Simpson had the most highest avg per carry among the top backs last season despite playing behind a crap o-line and was an all star last season.... Fred Reid was also an all star in 2010.... Rec - Matthews was rookie of the year, Denmark was runner up the year prior... Edwards has had 1000 yard seasons in 5 of his last 6 years... Edwards and Matthews both all stars during that time period O-line has been weak... but January all star last year... Labatte in the past also all star.... D-line - We have had a guy in the top 3 for sacks in the last 3 seasons.... as a unit we have been #1 for 2 of the last 3 years as a unit for leading the league in sacks... the other year we were 2nd. Alex Hall, Bryant Turner all stars last year. Willis and Doug Brown all stars in the past.... LBers - Muamba led the league in forced fumbles last year... regarded as the #1 NI free agent that teams will go after. Bowman was fantastic until getting hurt last year. Secondary - Jovon has been a league leader and an all star numerous times, in the last few years guys like Logan and Hefney also unanimous all stars. Punting - Renaud has been in the top 2 for Net Punting in each of the last 3 seasons. Also former all star. Kicking - Palardy was top 3 last season had 87% success which is really high. Return game - Last 3 years we've always had a guy in the top two in the punt or kickoff return leaders. Outside of crappy QB'ing we have had an all star at nearly every position (outside of place kicker and lbers) during the last 3 years. Funny thing was that Jyles in 2010 had the 2nd highest qb rating in the league and 2nd highest TD to Int ratio! We had Joey Elliott who was 2 time POW winner , it may be a fluke to win it once but to win it twice means the guy had to have some sort of above average talent. Buck hasn't even won it once has he? So once again facts proves that you literally are typing poop in each post you make.

Based on the fact that he's performed the best of our 3 qbs and him being the youngest and most physically gifted QB out of the 3. Please provide substance aside from 1 incomplete pass to Matthews and a whole lot of nothing else aside from ignoring the dozens and dozens of posts from various people on here providing clear cut examples that he's been the best of the 3.

It's not the talent... the guys may have bad attitudes and I definitely think they have given up and are not playing with any sort of effort or care these days. That I believe. But to say Alex Hall is a bum, that Demond Washington, Muamba and name pretty much anyone on the defense and say that these guys are bums is ridiculous and the easy and lazy way to criticize the team. This site unfortunately is starting to get a lot more lazy posters who simply don't back up what they say and just go with the easy blame Mack and anyone he has recruited garbage.....

If you read my original post you would see my reasons.... mainly the lack of arm strength and his slow feet. Unless for some reason he was holding back I doubt that he's going to throw missiles in his next start.

What I don't get is those two guys make it seem like Goltz is missing guys by a mile.... maybe I have selective memory but most of Goltz incompletions that I remember were from drops and/or throwing the ball away instead of giving up the sack and losing yards.

No way Creehan is back next year with how pathetic this defense is looking this year..... Maybe he gets canned this season and Burke takes control over the defense for the rest of the season but I doubt it.... Who do you think we should bring in next year for the full rebuild to run our defense? I still say Mark Nelson would be a solid candidate... he was one of the few bright spots back in the Kelly dark years and his style of defense from what I remember was much less passive then the crap we have now with Creehan and the crap we had back with Marshall. With Nelson he made Odell Willis look like a superstar and same with the rest of the d-line... I think he could get a lot more out of the talent we have. Anyone have any other suggestions of coaches who might be available?