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is that coaching though or the players? Obviously the defense knows how far the offense needs to go for a first down and they'll try and force the receiver to go short of that right? Should the onus not be on the recievers to make sure their routes take them to the first down sticks? I think in a situation like that it is too simple to just blame the playcalling without knowing how far the route was supposed to take the receiver. I mean if it's a recurring problem through a couple different OCs now maybe it's time to point fingers at the guys running those routes.

or crazy thought, he had more faith in the guy actually working in the CFL over a talking head on TSN. Walters was already heavily involved in the Bombers NI scouting, all the rest of this is just insanity. I think it's simply a case that he doesn't have a good eye for head coaches. He's gone about building the depth on this team both I and NI, there's really just 2 sore spots in his time here, HC and qb and those are both tied together.

no because the decision to keep buck and dump Elliott is going to be a big one in determining the fate of the guys running this team if none of the other qbs step up. So until one of them makes us all forget up Elliott it is going to be deservedly brought up. They chose to release him, so it's still a relevant topic given how much of a sore spot the qb position has been.

To me it's a situation where a guy can have all the talent in the world as a qb but he still needs a lot of other things to go right and I don't think the guys we had were able to do it. I still say Elliott could have turned into a decent starter, but obviously Burke didn't like him. Goltz shows potential, but will he be able to d anything when he's not given a chance to play?

The one I'll be most disappointed to lose is Mack because he brings in some fantastic talent. Too bad his choices at head coach haven't been worth a damn.

Burke, Crowton, Mack, probably all the rest of the coaches too since a new GM will bring in all new coaches.

just blows my mind how selective that guy is when looking at pierce. Pierce is crap in the hamilton game but hangs onto the 2 good drives he had and throws every other players slighest mistakes out there... Goltz looks solid but says he didn't do some things well. Pierce does his usual thing which includes a lot of crap and it's best qb blah blah blah postive postive postive. If Burke were able to assess Pierce with the same critical eye he uses on everyone else this team would be a lot further ahead.

Burkes stubborn insistence that Pierce is the starter is going to get a lot of people fired.

now my question is, why can't he accurately assess Pierces performance?

The answer as it has been for a while now, is yes. What have we got to lose?

To me Kohlert is this generations Stoddard. Doesn't leap out at you but just keeps doing what he has to.

CFL website has Goltz at 13-15 for 170 yards no tds no ints... seems like there's something there, we know Pierce doesn't have it anymore and yeah some of those Goltz stats were garbage time but he's the most athletic qb on the roster, let's give him a shot and see if he gets better. Can't be worse than going down by several scores before the game is half over.

it seems like there is a real double standard when it comes to accountability with this team. Seems to me that he is much quicker to bench or replace defensive guys than offensive ones despite the offense being such an achilles heel for this team for years now. I mean we returned pretty much everyone on offense... how does that make any sense? Then after a month of crappy offense the only changes getting made are due to injuries... End the double standard and start benching the guys on offense who aren't doing their jobs.

I'd suspect that once people start getting healthy Johnson might find himself only on special teams.. How has sears looked being back?

and by stamps fans you mean rider fans right?

IF anyone really thinks the bombers don't want to establish the run I'm going to call them an idiot and be completely justified in it. They need to fixthe #1 problem first and everything else will fall into place. They need to get more from the quarterback position.

but 20 times per game is also reliant on the offense staying on the field, and when you can't pass the ball your offense certainly won't stay on the field. This isn't a case of the bombers being unwilling to get the running game involved, this is a case of the bombers offense being unable to produce and stay on the field enough to get the runningbacks the number of touches everyone wants to see. The offense is a complete trainwreck in terms of production. You can't establish the run when the offense is THAT ineffective. There's a reason so many people want to see a new qb, because the play from the position we've gotten in the first 3 weeks is crippling this team.

still relies on everyone executing it properly and there's still going to be times when the defense makes a stop and you're in 2nd and long. Need to be able to pick up first downs through the air in order to sustain any sort of offense in the CFL.

if the Hulk is anyone he is Bryant Turner.

oh you missed all the many many many posts that have done just that?

Nothing can be worse than some of the shitty games I have witnessed in my time in Alberta. Absolutely nothing.

Crowton made the argos defense look stupid late last season with the running game, I expect that it'll be the focus this weekend again. But the point still stands, you're going to find yourself in situations where the run gets stuffed and you have to be able to pass your way out of it.

and Burke said they called running plays on pretty much every first down in the 2nd half.... you can't establish the run without a passing game to back a defense off. Just turning around and giving the ball to simpson won't do **** all for the offense. Until you can pass your way out of 2nd and long, because you WILL be in 2nd and long regularly in the CFL, you can't establish and kind of offense and therefore get your running game more involved.

Think I read somewhere today that Durant was going to play.

but one of them was more no good than the other.