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For the millionth time, because this is a new virus that spreads ******* fast! The flu has been around forever and doesn't overload the health care system. That's what we are trying to accomplish here, save lives by not having to choose who lives and who dies because we don't have enough resources to handle everyone getting sick at once.

DO NOT QUESTION YOUR EMPEROR!!!

I suspect what we will see is a gradual loosening of restrictions. The thing will continue to spread, but hopefully slowly enough to manage.

Flattened because we're all for the most part taking extraordinary measures to keep it that way. The issue is always going to be that when things open up again it will spike. This is a very contagious virus. It's not necessarily the most deadly, but it spreads so easily you can overwhelm the system pretty easily.

Yes and the limitations of it are well documented. That doesn't mean there is another side to any arguments.

No, there are no both sides. This is a science argument and science doesn't pick sides. The effectiveness of the flu shot is what it is. Vaccines are for herd immunity and protecting the weakest among us.

Ritchie Hall adapted. That's the big difference. Yes he got a talent upgrade, but he also made some changes. Hall was never a guy afraid of adjusting, he just really did get a bit passive at times, but was capable of adjusting. Lapo never changed.

the more time he gets with a qb the lower their numbers get. How many times to I have to explain these things to you people? You watch, Ottawa is going to be a team that barely loses most of their games cause that's the Lapo way. He's not a new entity in the CFL, He's been doing his thing since 2002. We've seen it time and time again.

i don't know where, but they are doing it in an empty building. Not sure how the get around the numbers of the staff, but I guess there's a way.

well i gave you an example of a tax cut not keeping businesses around, you got any examples handy of businesses leaving specifically because of their tax burden? We've been trying trickle down economics for a while now and all it's gotten is a widening gap between the 1% and the rest of the population and an ever shrinking middle class. So go on, tell me how we have to bow town and kiss the feet of corporations.

The tax rate isn't a big driver of whether a business is located somewhere or isn't. So your choice is flat out incorrect.

So we should keep on giving them a break? Like Jason Kenney did in Alberta only to see companies take the money and still leave?

Stop giving tax cuts to big business and tax the super wealthy higher. Stop downloading the tax burden onto the middle class and cutting services and making it up with user fees.

Your doctors advice is crap and I'd look for a new one. The flu vaccine isn't perfect, but it's better than nothing AND we don't get flu shots for ourselves, we get them for the vulnerable in our society. Same reason we all have to stay home and avoid other people over covid. It's no wonder the hard core right wingers hate it so much. It's doing a selfless thing for the common good. Selfish people hate that.

And when we have a vaccine for covid19 you won't see these measures either. Jesus keep up. Also stop using very early death rates. For example in alberta there are currently 2 or 3 new deaths every day. How long do you think it will take to catch up. Stop using bullshit logic. That might fly in echo chambers where everyone wants to hear the same thing but in the real world, with people who are capable or critical thought it's not gonna fly because anyone with half a brain can see that these are crap arguments. No one is dismissing the economic impact. It's gonna suck, but the world will just have to change and adapt. No more wealth hoarding. Those rich folks will have to help the rest of society out for a change.

Oh you're an anti-vaxxer too? Let me take you even less seriously. Get a brain Moran.

#LapoProblems.

So you don't like to read eh? Cause you took nothing that I wrote in my post for your response. This is why you are ignorant. I don't know if it is willful ignorance or simply that you're slow but until such time as you can actually read and understand the arguments being presented pipe down while the grownups are talking.

yeah the whole point here is to slow the spread (not stop it, that can't be done) but mearly slow it down enough to avoid overwhelming the health care system and hopefully buying time for improved treatments and a vaccine.

Well I and many many others get a flu shot each year... There are lots of places that restrict visitation during flu season to try and help from vulnerable people getting it.... So yeah we do take precautions. Here is where you apparently fail at logic, this is a new virus that no one on the planet had any immunity to. That means we are all susceptible to it, unlike the flu which there are people with immunity to, because it's been around for a long time and we have a vaccine for it. Stop trying to come up with a smart sounding argument and use a little logic.

give it time. You have this really bad habit of looking for an entire seasons worth for the flu and the very start of a pandemic... AND you are being completely dishonest about it any because our country is taking unprecedented measures to slow the spread of this thing. If we all had your attitude towards it you'd damned sure see more than 1 death from Covid in Manitoba (a number which is sadly going to climb). And further to that, it's not an either or situation here! each death from Covid is a death that is added onto other deaths. I mean even Trump and his loyal band of idiots have given up this stupid "the flu is worse" argument because it doesn't hold any merit at all.

The biggest impediment is that the oil and gas industry paid so much more. No other industry wants to compete with those wages.

Again, just because oil was humongous doesn't mean Alberta has nothing else. Oil just completely blew things out of control. I mean even with the oil industry depressed and people in alberta feeling like the end times it still has an economy that many other provinces would love to have.

Toronto has entered the chat.

True story, I was going to put decades but didn't want to come across as overly dramatic.