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That Rose PI is pretty blatant IMO. If he made a more aggressive play for the ball it might have been less noticeable, but he got beat and just grabbed onto 11’s left arm and held it. If he isn’t holding the arm 11 has a chance to catch a fairly accurate pass with two hands and it’s probably a TD. I think that one needs to be called….I’d expect the call if it was Schoen running away from another teams DB.

Not so much the protection scheme as the get the ball out of Zach’s hands scheme. Thorpe basically has one zone blitz layered with another delayed blitz on most passing downs. The fumble play was a good example. No one is ever going to read that 37 will rush from a short zone, but they need to know Thorpe’s scheme and not expect to sit in the pocket for 5 seconds, Collaros and Buck. Bryant had a real hard time with Moore.

I’m wearing shorts until Liegghio makes a Grey Cup winning kick.

And he did make a Grey Cup winning kick. I think a point to be made here is that pretty much all kickers have these games. Medlock had one against us in 09 and it’s the entire reason he was up here to start with because he blew it in KC and Carolina later on. Anyone got an idea of kickers that are available right now? I mean the NFL guys are hanging around waiting for someone to screw up to get another shot. Who’s been cut this year? Is Crapigna healthy?

There’s basically one kicker I’d trust in the league right now and he’s in Calgary. Whyte is good but his range is getting shorter. I don’t know if bringing random Americans in solves the problem. I would have liked to see some guys in for training camp not Mourtada. Now anyone in and on the roster is going to be under a 1000x zoom microscope and every missed kick will be a call for their head. I don’t really want to pay Castillo more than what half our starting receivers make to kick 80%, although yeah he was big in the Grey Cup game. Liegghio gets to have this feeling and hopefully builds from it because I don’t see a white knight with a big leg in our future this year.

Already have guys here. I'd certainly rather have an American who can block in the interior than Greg McCrae out there to flip the ball to Grant immediately if he touches it on kick return.

Less worried about the OL and more worried about Buck's ability to scheme for pressure, and scheme in a way that Collaros will run it. Collaros has a lot of blame here too, he has a way he wants to run a pass game and it relies on having a lot of time to move the ball downfield. Have to adjust to the D a bit sooner than the 3rd quarter.

Nobody's happy with it. But don't let it distract from the offensive dump that was taken on that field tonight for the most part.

Well Gary's guarantee finally rang true.

Only time it has to land in the field for a rouge is on a kickoff. Could also angle a kick to go out the side of the endzone, doesn't have to go out the back. Have seen Prefontaine, O'Shea's former teammate for the Argos, set up for a FG style kick to coffin corner a kick and once to push a single through the side of the endzone. Can kick it off the tee and put it out of bounds. Yeah I agree that they needed to bring someone in earlier. We have Mourtada on the PR. Should have brought in someone much better. Maybe could now, but I'm saying there's likely more value at this point in working through this with Liegghio than having a midseason kicker camp, putting guys out there and cutting them every time they miss a kick.

Yeah. OL man to man got beat but Buck also got mollywhopped in this two game series by Thorpe. Really needs to figure out some ideas to handle pressure that aren't 4 yard hospital balls to Rasheed Bailey with his back to the defense. If Montreal had a halfway decent QB they'd have a chance to contend.

God kickers in the 80s and 90s were like a coin flip. Westwood had lots of years well under 70% but also booted a 55 yarder to beat Sask in 03.

Yeah who is that? The Als kicker put a 20 yarder into the upright. I groaned right away on that play at the end of the 4th cause the snap was about 1 yard and a half wide of Prukop and I knew it was going to screw it all up. But yeah just need to make sure we get the rouge there. I don't think on the whole we'll get anyone better than Liegghio off the street right now. So this happened in August and there's a chance to build from here so it doesn't happen again. There's not really anyone in the CFL save Whyte (who's not coming here), Paredes or Castillo who I'd take over Liegghio at this moment.

Yeah it's a meaningless game in the standings but hopefully lots of fodder for improved scheming on offense to grow some consistency, score more points. D just needs to play faster and a bit more focused.

That offside call is even more interesting since the ball isn't exactly on the 1, it's a bit behind. Interesting on rewatch. The yard to give isn't necessarily at the goal line.

Tell me who you want. Trade for Castillo and pick a veteran starter to cut. Castillo is still lagging Liegghio in percentage but maybe more clutch. Who do you sign on the bye and throw on the field vs the Stamps?

Paredes never played for us. Only in camp. Hajrullahu was broken. Was happy to let him walk and grab Medlock. One of the biggest moves that pushed the team into contention for Grey Cups, kicking and punting.

Wish we had brought in a legit import kicker to at least compete maybe go on PR. Instead we have Mourtada who is demonstrably worse still hanging around.

Yeah all possibilities. I trust our QB and guys on O a lot more to handle the pressure of handling the ball than I do a long snapper and kicker who run kicks under pressure about twice a game. But just my point of view, and I coach at a level where our kickers usually are pretty awful so maybe that's a bias I have.

The O should be the big concern out of this one. O plays reasonably well and you don't need any last second or OT kicks. Seems like the only guy they use in quick game to beat pressure is Bailey. And IMO that's about the 5th best option on the field to get the ball to. Oliviera has even passed him. Buck needs to figure out how to deal with pressure. They need to convince Collaros to buy into some quick game and then can work in the downfield stuff off that.

Als DL was awesome but the Bombers handed this one over.

Could be an OL that makes a difference on a bunch of plays in the game and it's a 38-17 win. The reason why it comes down to the kicker is a lot of poor play and decision making in this game. Collaros holds the ball forever then fumbles at 17-10 to hand the ball to the Als. Throw that away, we make a kick there and it's 20-10.

Kickers league wide are pretty bad right now. Not sure we'd do better. Maybe Castillo is more "clutch" but he's only a 80% guy who's getting paid as much as a lot of our veteran starters on O and D.

99%? What about a **** snap, which is was, but the holder can't snag? What about a block? Not 99%. There's no reason to shut that drive down at 1:10 and just run clock. Our O can finish the game.

Liegghio looked like he was crying after the OT kick. Hopefully he takes this in stride and improves. It's really not a game that matters in the grand scheme of things. He's a great punter although it takes him relatively forever to get his punts off which is dangerous.