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Looks like support may be coming in version 4.7.20. We are on 4.7.19. Don’t know exact date but these point upgrades are usually measured in months.

Best of the west for at least 5 years and the best in the league for at least two of those years.... Don't dismiss the wins. This franchise is the envy of the league.

Collaros has been pretty similar in all of the years he's been here IMO. The biggest problem is that every year we've given more money to our top guys, including himself, and not getting the return on the investment. Collaros is a good QB but he needs a great team around him if we're going to win it all (just like any QB). We've lost the last 3 Grey Cups to MBT/green Kelly, Fajardo, and Nick Arbuckle. Goes to show you, you don't need elite QB play to win a championship.

Time: Saturday 1800, SN Stats: 17-3-0 @ 6-11-3 Streaks: W2 @ L1 Last Ten: 8-2-0 @ 3-5-2 FWIW: After 20 games 2024/25 17-3-0 = 34pts 🥇 2023/24 12-6-2 = 26pts 2022/23 13-6-1 = 27pts 2021/22 9-7-4 = 22pts 2020/21 13-6-1 = 27pts 2019/20 11-8-1 = 23pts 2018/19 12-6-2 = 26pts 2017/18 12-5-3 = 27pts

Agree, the rebuild began this past season with many hard decisions made, it will likely continue next season with an equal number of hard decisions. The canary in the coal mine are the regular season games against the Argos and Als, continue losing to them in the regular season and it shouldn't come as a surprise when they lose to them again in the playoffs. To think a different result is likely to happen is flying too close to Riderfan-dumb. Leaf rejects.

That didn't take long. Montgomery to St Louis. https://x.com/NHL/status/1860692037810389103

That's a league thing. Guys don't get cut from the NFL who can step in anymore

Yup it’s pretty obvious as we see the anyone but the Bombers feel/vibe everywhere. Hate the play not the playa.

No has more wins than Winnipeg from 2016-2024.

Rutger McGroarty F WBS 12 1 2 3 -5 2 1 0 0.25 0.17 23 0 0 0 0.0

This makes no sense. We have been the West division champions for those 3 straight years. There are 4 other teams that should be firing their coaches every year by your standard.

We have made the grey cup for 5 straight seasons and hosted 4 straight western finals.... a little perspective is perhaps warranted here... ultimately they failed to win the big prize 3 years in a row but they still have had tremendous success including last season. Anyone look back at the stamps of the 2010s and think they weren't successful? Or the als of the 2000s? They had plenty of Grey cup disappointments but they weren't touted as unsuccessful. Fact is that prior to the Bombers the last team to make 5 straight Grey cups was the 5 in a row Eskimos... that says something right there. People need to tone down the craziness and see things for what they are. Could be better in some aspects but could also be a ******* hell of a lot worse.

In pro sports. If you're not changing you're not getting better. That's not to say all change is good or will result in better performances. Which is why that line of work can be so cut throat. But it still stands. IF they keep things exactly as they are. The bombers will be worse next season.

Rosebud is his sled and Darth Vader is Luke Skywalker's father.

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Crowded front office and they still need to bring in Wally to help advise who they should hire as GM.

Yeah, that’s really bad news. Big loss. I guess Coghlan gets some playing time? Heinola comes up from his conditioning stint.

Given O'Shea's personality, I cannot see him willingly parting with his favoured but inadequate players. If he is ordered to do so, he may well, like Ahab lashed to Moby ****, go down with them, and that would not be a bad thing. If he is ordered to make those cuts and somehow chooses to stay as head coach, I would question how well he would function after that diminishing.

So long as O'Shea has anything to say about it, nothing short of death is going to get the needed players out of here and replaced. Any strength can be a weakness if carried to an extreme.

Tainted by loser's sweat, not good.

The Bombers players and coaches may not have brought home the big prize the past few seasons but the Bombers are still wildly successful as a franchise by virtually every other metric... top of the league in attendance thanks to a massive contingent of season ticket holders, an overall record that eclipses the rest of the league dating back nearly a decade, continuous improvements to gameday experience and stadium operations... flaws exist (what org is flawless in sports or otherwise?) but to suggest they are unsuccessful is disingenuous Imagine being a HAM or CGY fan. Shoot me now!

We did turn over...a lot not by choice tho ...we Def tho need to me more apt to making the tough...right decisions tho. The months leading into Jan will be interesting and very telling as to if we have learned and are making a shift tho...

Both men are on expiring contracts IIRC. Not much we can do really. However, I'm not sure that McManus/Goveia are interested in moving and being 2nd fiddle to the other one. We would retain one rather easily I would think.

The entitlement is demanding open transparent answers in the media.

Too lazy to go looking for article, but Dinwiddie has been getting pretty much what he wants over there.

3 rookie receivers in Wilson, Clercius and Wheatfall that are fully taxed learning the CFL game and the routes assigned to them, nevermind ad-libbing broken plays they have no clue when to break off. They have no relationship with the QB and are probably scared to talk to him, Zach's "anger translator" and glue guy Woli gets knocked out for half the season. What could go wrong??? Should have brought back Zach's buddy Greg Ellingson for one last fling.

It's been like 40 years since that was a real thing though too. Name a Bomber player you can remember in your lifetime who joined the team right out of a NFL camp in September....a guy who we didn't have before...and was an impact player right away. There's two I can remember in my life...Stegall and Orlando Bobo, although he hadn't played football in 2 seasons when they brought him up midseason. NFL rosters are also 85-90 deep with IR these days. That first layer of 250-300 cuts aren't signing a 3 year deal to come up to Canada, yeah they have an out if they get signed by NFL in the next February.

Dalton Schoen won ROTY in 2022, is that an indication of excellent coaching?

Can be a little of column A and B.

I f’ing hate this team. Almost as much as the wild and leafs.

Huge True North Chant. Nashville honouring David Poile former GM. And Shea Weber. where’s the banner guys.

a lot of "true north" tonight

If they hire Mueller, I'll not stop laughing for hours.

Doesn’t he end up jumping lol.

The fact billionaires like Edwards and Tanenbaum are collecting revenue sharing payments from community owned teams to help support their teams should be embarrassing to these high risk captains of capitalism.

What are you a communist? Only profits are private, all risk and expenses should be socialized. I am still ******* angry at the sweetheart deal the governments out here gave the Flames.

I don't like his offence at all. One dimensional and easy to shut down. Hope we aren't seriously considering him.

Calgary has an owner that too cheap to buy coffee and muffins for the players meetings. I can't see how they could grade any better than the inevitable F they are going to get.

Been hearing that for 3 years now.

Wouldn't want Maksymic as our OC. Might as well trade BO if we did that.

No ones is saying lollipops and rainbows. Just as this could be the beginning of the end, it could just as easily be the continuation of the dominance we have seen. All things end for sure, but that does not mean that it is now or even beginning now. CFLPA is putting out their report cards soon. That will tell a lot.

Carey made a good point in a third down article about how Toronto went 16-2 last year, didn't win and then went out and got Ceresna. We on the other hand seem to value the status quo. I'm not calling for MOS to be fired but some changes like a new OC and the fond farewell to some aging vets would be nice.

Man, when you put those four names beside each other that beat us in the championship games, gross head shaking side to side, but true what you say.

100%. But as you say - different sized horns. Collaros wasn't playing well in the big game, even prior to his injured hand. The cracks in his game started to show back in 2023. Fairly large horns there. MOS shouldn't have put his injured QB back in the game when he's been told the player can't grip the ball. More large horns. Brady the league's MOC and MOP not fed the ball. Horns for both MOS and for play-caller Buck on that one - and also (again) for Collaros who decided to throw on RPOs, despite knowing his hand was a liability. I would also place a little thorny crown on Kyle Walters for signing Collaros to a 3-year deal that hamstrung the club on the salary cap which has led to other consequences.

Yup they’ll be the Pittsburgh Penguins of the CFL.

100%. Given Collaros's struggles in the 2023 season - even then many could see his deer in the headlights look even under slightest pressure, his lack of resolve to stay in the pocket for an extra beat, his off-target throws. This past season should've have been the time to get your back-up QB some meaningful live fire. Walters should be able to see how Streveler was not used optimally. Let's see if the OC and HC are held to account.

If O'Shea is still here as head coach next year, we will have a repeat performance. If any business had a manager who had a worse job performance for three consecutive years and made the same staffing mistakes again and again, damned few would get a fourth chance,

He's the raddest ******* dude alive?

Why are we worrying about Trevor Harris for? Maybe if he played for us, his "vanilla" would have prevented us from going to the Grey Cup.