What I don't get is those two guys make it seem like Goltz is missing guys by a mile.... maybe I have selective memory but most of Goltz incompletions that I remember were from drops and/or throwing the ball away instead of giving up the sack and losing yards.    

Yup..;.you're right Goltz was perfect...didn't make any mistakes, The only thing I will say is that he did in fact not give up turnovers, but with his lack of accuracy we will not be moving the team up and down the field on a regular basis...too bad.

If you read my original post you would see my reasons....  mainly the lack of arm strength and his slow feet.  Unless for some reason he was holding back I doubt that he's going to throw missiles in his next start.

and if you don't throw missiles you can't win? Give us a break...Jyles for one! and many others

Yup..;.you're right Goltz was perfect...didn't make any mistakes

Whoa, I wouldn't go that far, but he is the best QB we have currently however,

Whoa, I wouldn't go that far, but he is the best QB we have currently however,

Guess you don't understand scarcasm

While I do like Goltz, I actually thought Hall played better than Goltz did.

While I do like Goltz, I actually thought Hall played better than Goltz did.

 

x2 (for thinking Hall was better... not for liking Goltz)

While I do like Goltz, I actually thought Hall played better than Goltz did.

if we based it on the first half then yeah I agree but that 2nd half was not so great and made it a lot closer. 

Nice thing about having a totally new OC is  he's not bound to anything the old one did. Let him decide who starts from now on & be done with it. The politics of Crowton is finished. All Marcel wants to do now is come in here & win some games. He'll have a fresh approach to who should start & who shouldn't. For now, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt.

it will be very interesting to see who he starts

Let's not forget the teams Goltz faced compared to Hammy.  Hall turned them into Ball Hawks when no one else could.

Yeah, all 3 qbs haven't been world beaters so fighting over whether it's Hall or Goltz is pointless as I suspect there'll be other guys brought in.

We just canned an OC, or OL is suspect, some of our receivers are ???

 

And we're trying to evaluate inexperienced Quarterbacks?

I haven't read all of the threads so I apologize if this has already been discussed, but Hall reminds me a lot of Elliott. Not much of an arm and not much of an athlete, but still seemed to move the ball fairly well. The turnovers were another unfortunate resemblance.

 

The one thing I thought made Hall look more promising than Elliott is that he seems to be a more accurate passer.

Let's not forget the teams Goltz faced compared to Hammy.

Absolutely. Goltz had to face by far the best two defenses our team has played so far this season.

While I do like Goltz, I actually thought Hall played better than Goltz did.

 

He did, but Goltz played against BC and Calgary. And Morley the pylon was still in @ right guard.

 

If you read my original post you would see my reasons....  mainly the lack of arm strength and his slow feet.  Unless for some reason he was holding back I doubt that he's going to throw missiles in his next start.

and if you don't throw missiles you can't win? Give us a break...Jyles for one! and many others

 

 

Hey if we had the kind of stats that Jyles had with us we would be sitting at 500 minimum....   19 tds to 7 ints is pretty damn good!   

 

While I do like Goltz, I actually thought Hall played better than Goltz did.

He did, but Goltz played against BC and Calgary. And Morley the pylon was still in @ right guard.

what part of Morley and B.C./CAL made goltz throw balls into the dirt when edwards and simpson were wide open and he had time or made every ball thrown on a crosser way off the mark?

what part of Morley and B.C./CAL made goltz throw balls into the dirt when edwards and simpson were wide open and he had time or mad every bakl thrown on a crosser way off the mark?

 

 

Everybody knows the answer to that!

 

 

If you read my original post you would see my reasons....  mainly the lack of arm strength and his slow feet.  Unless for some reason he was holding back I doubt that he's going to throw missiles in his next start.

and if you don't throw missiles you can't win? Give us a break...Jyles for one! and many others

 

 

Hey if we had the kind of stats that Jyles had with us we would be sitting at 500 minimum....   19 tds to 7 ints is pretty damn good!   

 

But he's not with us and for very good reason...he is a loser...he's also not with any other team

Question....does Marcel ask K Walters to give Q. Porter a call?

This season sure reminds me of 2009. Wasn't it just about now Kelly put in an emergency call to Michael Bishop?

Question....does Marcel ask K Walters to give Q. Porter a call?

I don't think so. He eventually got off the porter wagon and I can't see him getting back on.

While I do like Goltz, I actually thought Hall played better than Goltz did.

Says the guy who had max hall as his avy on the extra point

Whoa, I wouldn't go that far, but he is the best QB we have currently however,

Guess you don't understand scarcasm

Yeah I did, hence the wink. I just thought it would be funny to manipulate your post and turn it against what you were trying to get out. Bad sense of humour, I know

While I do like Goltz, I actually thought Hall played better than Goltz did.

He did, but Goltz played against BC and Calgary. And Morley the pylon was still in @ right guard.

what part of Morley and B.C./CAL made goltz throw balls into the dirt when edwards and simpson were wide open and he had time or made every ball thrown on a crosser way off the mark?

I don't remember that