Posted November 24, 201311 yr comment_30281 http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/sports/football/cfl/Collaros-sweepstakes-get-interesting-233222371.html Wonder if this changes Walters' thought process at all? I still stand by my hope that we go after Drew Willy.
November 24, 201311 yr comment_30283 No, I want us to pursue Colaros as hard as we've ever pursued a player & not lose. Throw the CFL equivalent of a Brink's truck at him to be able to sign him. Whatever other CFL offer we match & do better. Haven't seen enough of Willy to know if he's the guy long term. But I feel Colaros is. The only other young qbs I feel just as strongly about are Troy Smith & BLM. Both will be protected I'm certain. Once we sign him then start rebuilding that gawd awful OL.
November 24, 201311 yr comment_30294 Reilly was suscpeted to wait as well and didn't. If the bombers trade for his rights they might be able to sign him before FA
November 24, 201311 yr comment_30296 Nah, what I get outta that article is that Barker's screwed. I think Collaros, his agent, and Walters are all working together and trying to save the Bombers from trading too much to get him. He knows he's going to Winnipeg, so he's trying to maximize the deal for them. If he doesn't sign with the Argos, then the Bombers get him for next-to-nothing. This is a done deal, IMO...
November 24, 201311 yr comment_30299 Why would he switch agents? Article says 2 connected CFL agents are courting him. What impact would this have?
November 24, 201311 yr comment_30300 Back when Mike Reilly was in a similar situation, I wondered why he wouldn't wait a couple of weeks and test FA, but he had already made up his mind so the point was moot. This year, if Collaros is thinking FA, I can see his point, but his situation may not be as lucrative as he thinks. If he's thinking NFL, that would be waste of time IMO. If he's only thinking CFL, then the only team without a starting QB is the Bombers, and we would seem to have more choices than he does. His decision should be an easy one and I believe he is only trying to maximize his position.
November 24, 201311 yr comment_30301 Nah, what I get outta that article is that Barker's screwed. I think Collaros, his agent, and Walters are all working together and trying to save the Bombers from trading too much to get him. He knows he's going to Winnipeg, so he's trying to maximize the deal for them. If he doesn't sign with the Argos, then the Bombers get him for next-to-nothing. This is a done deal, IMO... You really think so? You think it's not just about Collaros wanting to find out what the market will bear? If he's only thinking CFL, then the only team without a starting QB is the Bombers Ottawa and Winnipeg need starting QBs in 2014. Hamilton, too -- Burris and LeFevour are both free agents.
November 24, 201311 yr comment_30302 Why should he sign with the Argos? They aren't protecting him. So he waits. We sign him when the time comes.
November 24, 201311 yr comment_30303 If he's only thinking CFL, then the only team without a starting QB is the Bombers Ottawa and Winnipeg need starting QBs in 2014. Hamilton, too -- Burris and LeFevour are both free agents. You forget, by then, Ottawa will have picked their starter, likely from the roster of the Stampeders. As to Hamilton, Collaros would still have to outdo whichever QB Ham. re-signs.
November 24, 201311 yr comment_30304 Nah, what I get outta that article is that Barker's screwed. I think Collaros, his agent, and Walters are all working together and trying to save the Bombers from trading too much to get him. He knows he's going to Winnipeg, so he's trying to maximize the deal for them. If he doesn't sign with the Argos, then the Bombers get him for next-to-nothing. This is a done deal, IMO... You really think so? You think it's not just about Collaros wanting to find out what the market will bear? If he's only thinking CFL, then the only team without a starting QB is the Bombers Ottawa and Winnipeg need starting QBs in 2014. Hamilton, too -- Burris and LeFevour are both free agents. Unless Burris absolutely craps his pants today how does Hamilton not bring the guy back? No this is between Ottawa and Winnipeg and I get the impression that Walters doesn't give a **** about tampering so I think there's a good chance that Collaros knows how much interest there is in Winnipeg for him. Why would he sign with Toronto now? He knows he's not staying there so why sign just so Barker can try and get more from where ever he is going to wind up?
November 24, 201311 yr comment_30305 Nah, what I get outta that article is that Barker's screwed. I think Collaros, his agent, and Walters are all working together and trying to save the Bombers from trading too much to get him. He knows he's going to Winnipeg, so he's trying to maximize the deal for them. If he doesn't sign with the Argos, then the Bombers get him for next-to-nothing. This is a done deal, IMO... You really think so? You think it's not just about Collaros wanting to find out what the market will bear? If he's only thinking CFL, then the only team without a starting QB is the Bombers Ottawa and Winnipeg need starting QBs in 2014. Hamilton, too -- Burris and LeFevour are both free agents. True. If Hamilton signed Collaros then I'd assume Bombers would end up with Burris. He'd be a decent consolation prize, as he'd be nothing more than a 1-2 year stopgap, but Collaros remains the prize.
November 24, 201311 yr comment_30307 Nah, what I get outta that article is that Barker's screwed. I think Collaros, his agent, and Walters are all working together and trying to save the Bombers from trading too much to get him. He knows he's going to Winnipeg, so he's trying to maximize the deal for them. If he doesn't sign with the Argos, then the Bombers get him for next-to-nothing. This is a done deal, IMO... You really think so? You think it's not just about Collaros wanting to find out what the market will bear? If he's only thinking CFL, then the only team without a starting QB is the Bombers Ottawa and Winnipeg need starting QBs in 2014. Hamilton, too -- Burris and LeFevour are both free agents. Unless Burris absolutely craps his pants today how does Hamilton not bring the guy back? No this is between Ottawa and Winnipeg and I get the impression that Walters doesn't give a **** about tampering so I think there's a good chance that Collaros knows how much interest there is in Winnipeg for him. Why would he sign with Toronto now? He knows he's not staying there so why sign just so Barker can try and get more from where ever he is going to wind up? Thing with Ottawa is it's pretty much a given they take Kevin Glenn. With Glenn in Ottawa I can't see Collaros signing there. Running through all these scenarios in my head, factoring in Ottawa and Hamilton, one of these 4 QBs will be on the Bombers in 2014: Collaros, Burris, Glenn or Tate.
November 24, 201311 yr comment_30308 There's no chance he signs with the Argos. It is kind of odd that they'd even attempt to pull a sign and trade. It will need to be a conditional trade.
November 24, 201311 yr comment_30309 Thing with Ottawa is it's pretty much a given they take Kevin Glenn. With Glenn in Ottawa I can't see Collaros signing there.Running through all these scenarios in my head, factoring in Ottawa and Hamilton, one of these 4 QBs will be on the Bombers in 2014: Collaros, Burris, Glenn or Tate. Why is Glenn to Ottawa such a sure thing? He's a free agent next year so if the Redblacks take him in the expansion draft, all they win is an extra few weeks to "exclusively" negotiate with him. The only QB with starting experience who is signed for 2013 and likely to be exposed is Tate. Everyone else is a free agent. Ottawa's QB1 is going to come through free agency. Anything can happen in free agency. Sometime after the Grey Cup we need to have a QB carousel prediction thread.
November 24, 201311 yr comment_30311 Thing with Ottawa is it's pretty much a given they take Kevin Glenn. With Glenn in Ottawa I can't see Collaros signing there. Running through all these scenarios in my head, factoring in Ottawa and Hamilton, one of these 4 QBs will be on the Bombers in 2014: Collaros, Burris, Glenn or Tate. Why is Glenn to Ottawa such a sure thing? He's a free agent next year so if the Redblacks take him in the expansion draft, all they win is an extra few weeks to "exclusively" negotiate with him. The only QB with starting experience who is signed for 2013 and likely to be exposed is Tate. Everyone else is a free agent. Ottawa's QB1 is going to come through free agency. Anything can happen in free agency. Sometime after the Grey Cup we need to have a QB carousel prediction thread. Glenn is not a free agent. He has one year remaining on his current contract.
November 24, 201311 yr comment_30312 Thing with Ottawa is it's pretty much a given they take Kevin Glenn. With Glenn in Ottawa I can't see Collaros signing there.Running through all these scenarios in my head, factoring in Ottawa and Hamilton, one of these 4 QBs will be on the Bombers in 2014: Collaros, Burris, Glenn or Tate. Why is Glenn to Ottawa such a sure thing? He's a free agent next year so if the Redblacks take him in the expansion draft, all they win is an extra few weeks to "exclusively" negotiate with him. The only QB with starting experience who is signed for 2013 and likely to be exposed is Tate. Everyone else is a free agent. Ottawa's QB1 is going to come through free agency. Anything can happen in free agency. Sometime after the Grey Cup we need to have a QB carousel prediction thread. Glenn signed an extension with Calgary, as did Mitchell.
November 24, 201311 yr comment_30313 Thing with Ottawa is it's pretty much a given they take Kevin Glenn. With Glenn in Ottawa I can't see Collaros signing there.Running through all these scenarios in my head, factoring in Ottawa and Hamilton, one of these 4 QBs will be on the Bombers in 2014: Collaros, Burris, Glenn or Tate. Why is Glenn to Ottawa such a sure thing? He's a free agent next year so if the Redblacks take him in the expansion draft, all they win is an extra few weeks to "exclusively" negotiate with him. Glenn's not a FA this offseason.
November 24, 201311 yr comment_30315 How is tampering defined? For example, could the Bombers talk to Collaros agent, and just not directly with Collaros? Or is talking about Collaros to his agent considered tampering?
November 24, 201311 yr comment_30316 Nah, what I get outta that article is that Barker's screwed. I think Collaros, his agent, and Walters are all working together and trying to save the Bombers from trading too much to get him. He knows he's going to Winnipeg, so he's trying to maximize the deal for them. If he doesn't sign with the Argos, then the Bombers get him for next-to-nothing. This is a done deal, IMO... Love your optimism... Like JBR said, it would be crazy for Collaros to re-sign in TO and let them control what happens to him. They have to trade his rights or lose him for nothing in FA. And as 17to85 alluded to, who really gives a crap about tampering? The slap on the wrist from the CFL would be worth it, as this is too important for us to screw up.
November 24, 201311 yr comment_30317 Oh man, I missed that the Stamps announced that Glenn was not a free agent after this season. My bad.
November 24, 201311 yr comment_30318 How is tampering defined? For example, could the Bombers talk to Collaros agent, and just not directly with Collaros? Or is talking about Collaros to his agent considered tampering? Any of those are tampering. The Bombers would have to get the Argos permission to negotiate with Collaros, which is probably a good idea for Barker if he wants to maximize Collaros' trade value.
November 24, 201311 yr comment_30319 How is tampering defined? For example, could the Bombers talk to Collaros agent, and just not directly with Collaros? Or is talking about Collaros to his agent considered tampering? But if Collaros shares the same agent as say Dan West, well maybe Collaros name also comes up over a cup of coffee...
November 24, 201311 yr comment_30320 Does anyone take this recent article as a sign Collaros doesn't want to be a Bomber? Blueandgold: good point about switching agents. Might make it easier for a new agent to have casual conversations with the Bombers 'in passing'.
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