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comment_25518

 

Maybe I just haven't watched enough, but what the hell has Collaros done to get all this hype from people?? I really haven't been that impressed, and haven't seen anything to suggest that he can perform outside of this taylor-made offense that Milanovich has. 

I'm thinking most people here like Collaros because he's shown a lot of potential in a small period of time compared to some of the other QB's in the league aside from BLM.  Reilly was similar last year except he played fewer games.  Collaros has shown he has what it takes.  With proper coaching, he could go really far.

 

Your last sentence scares me a bit.

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comment_25520

Seems some people don't understand quite how bad things are right now for the Bombers.  It's not a matter of just replacing the GM and president.  The whole organization is a mess.  When every department is losing employees on a regular basis and you hear former members of the grounds crew, of all people, claiming they had to get out of the "toxic environment"... you know things are bad.  People talk, and players talk especially.  The vibe around the CFL is "Stay out of Winnipeg", and that's not speculation.  It's going to take time to fix everything, and having two rookie Acting executives in charge of everything this off-season is not going to help.  They need to hire a strong, experienced head man to run everything, like a Hufnagel, Buono, or Austin, or it is going to continue to be an absolute circus.

comment_25521

 

 

The Bombers' top 3 QB targets this off-season will be:

1. Collaros

2. Burris

3. DeMarco

That's straight from the horse's mouth this weekend.

Who is the "horse's mouth"?

 

 

Upper mgmt, can't say the name unfortunately.  Very legit source though.

 

 

Who says upper management is around next year, in fact, why should they be?

comment_25522

Seems some people don't understand quite how bad things are right now for the Bombers.  It's not a matter of just replacing the GM and president.  The whole organization is a mess.  When every department is losing employees on a regular basis and you hear former members of the grounds crew, of all people, claiming they had to get out of the "toxic environment"... you know things are bad.  People talk, and players talk especially.  The vibe around the CFL is "Stay out of Winnipeg", and that's not speculation.  It's going to take time to fix everything, and having two rookie Acting executives in charge of everything this off-season is not going to help.  They need to hire a strong, experienced head man to run everything, like a Hufnagel, Buono, or Austin, or it is going to continue to be an absolute circus.

Please tell me more. I'm interested.

comment_25525

 

 

Maybe I just haven't watched enough, but what the hell has Collaros done to get all this hype from people?? I really haven't been that impressed, and haven't seen anything to suggest that he can perform outside of this taylor-made offense that Milanovich has. 

I'm thinking most people here like Collaros because he's shown a lot of potential in a small period of time compared to some of the other QB's in the league aside from BLM.  Reilly was similar last year except he played fewer games.  Collaros has shown he has what it takes.  With proper coaching, he could go really far.

 

Your last sentence scares me a bit.

 

Trust me...I'm with you there.  Can you all say "QB Coach"?  I knew you could.  :)

comment_25529

Let's assume TO protects ray. They want lose collaros for nothing. What do we give up in a trade for him knowing we still have to sign him?

 

How does the trade deadline work now... can you still make trades but neither player can actually play for the teams?  Or can they not even be on YOUR 46 PLAYER roster?

 

I guess maybe if Toronto makes an early exit from the playoffs there might be time to trade for Collaros before the league cuts of all trades after the Grey Cup... not sure how the trade deadline works exactly...

comment_25532

 

 

 

Maybe I just haven't watched enough, but what the hell has Collaros done to get all this hype from people?? I really haven't been that impressed, and haven't seen anything to suggest that he can perform outside of this taylor-made offense that Milanovich has. 

I'm thinking most people here like Collaros because he's shown a lot of potential in a small period of time compared to some of the other QB's in the league aside from BLM.  Reilly was similar last year except he played fewer games.  Collaros has shown he has what it takes.  With proper coaching, he could go really far.

 

Your last sentence scares me a bit.

 

Trust me...I'm with you there.  Can you all say "QB Coach"?  I knew you could.   :)

 

If the Bombers keep Burke why will things change? He didn't want a qb coach this year knowing our qb situation was going to suck with inexperienced players at the qb position so why would he hire one for next year? The man is clueless.

comment_25538

 

 

If the Bombers keep Burke why will things change? He didn't want a qb coach this year knowing our qb situation was going to suck with inexperienced players at the qb position so why would he hire one for next year? The man is clueless.

 

 

He's already said he would bring in a qb coach if he's here next season.

 

I don't think we can take anything Burke says seriously anymore. He's become famous for saying something then changing his mind later. 

comment_25544

 

 

If the Bombers keep Burke why will things change? He didn't want a qb coach this year knowing our qb situation was going to suck with inexperienced players at the qb position so why would he hire one for next year? The man is clueless.

 

 

He's already said he would bring in a qb coach if he's here next season.

 

 

Great, let's keep Burke.  What a brilliant insight!

 

Want players to want to come to Winnipeg?  We can't sell them on a cosmopolitan city, oil money, or a sea of devoted green fans.  We don't have that.  We have a 700,000 person small town with no freeways, oil, or even rapid-transit... oh yeah, and cold-ass winters. 

 

Best we start by wiping the board clean and rolling out the new vision for how the new WFC is going to operate; which has to START with a GM and Coach dedicated to creating a new, winning environment.  This is a city that loves cheap... the problem is that this is a historically bad football club, bad to the point that it CANNOT get better on the cheap.  Atomic is right, the perception of the Bombers out there is not good right now.  We don't have a world class city to sweeten the deal for players either. 

 

We're in a spot where we've either got to spend to remake the franchise and its image, in hopes of attracting key talent; or just continue being cheap and continue bottom-dwelling.  Your move, WFC.

comment_25545

I do agree we need somebody experienced, Atomic, am curious your opinion of Higgins?

 

Mine is hire Higgins as GM and coach if he wants to coach too, if not let him hire who he wants as coach and hire a quality staff.

 

Higgins would have been a good choice several years ago.  I don't know whether he is still interested in the job or has the connections he once had.  Still, he has done it before and is still involved with the league so I'm sure we could do a lot worse.

comment_25547

Higgins would be a great choice. My concern about Walters is do the coaches in the SEC, Pac 12, Mountain West, Big 12, etc know the guy? Would they return his calls if he phoned them? What about NFL coaches or personnel directors? It's great to have contacts in the CIS but we also need a GM who can pick  up the phone & talk to people in the NFL or NCAA if need be. I believe that Walters needs much more experience before he tackles a massive rebuild with the Bombers. He needs to work under a GM who has those connections in order to get to know the people he needs to know in the US.

comment_25551

Higgins would be a great choice. My concern about Walters is do the coaches in the SEC, Pac 12, Mountain West, Big 12, etc know the guy? Would they return his calls if he phoned them? What about NFL coaches or personnel directors? It's great to have contacts in the CIS but we also need a GM who can pick up the phone & talk to people in the NFL or NCAA if need be. I believe that Walters needs much more experience before he tackles a massive rebuild with the Bombers. He needs to work under a GM who has those connections in order to get to know the people he needs to know in the US.

Those are valid points. But Walters has proposed his vision for his office should he become GM. It includes a beefed up US scouting unit to make up for his deficiencies with US connections.

comment_25552

Higgins would be a great choice. My concern about Walters is do the coaches in the SEC, Pac 12, Mountain West, Big 12, etc know the guy? Would they return his calls if he phoned them? What about NFL coaches or personnel directors? It's great to have contacts in the CIS but we also need a GM who can pick  up the phone & talk to people in the NFL or NCAA if need be. I believe that Walters needs much more experience before he tackles a massive rebuild with the Bombers. He needs to work under a GM who has those connections in order to get to know the people he needs to know in the US.

I hear Joe Mack is available..... 

comment_25554

 

Higgins would be a great choice. My concern about Walters is do the coaches in the SEC, Pac 12, Mountain West, Big 12, etc know the guy? Would they return his calls if he phoned them? What about NFL coaches or personnel directors? It's great to have contacts in the CIS but we also need a GM who can pick  up the phone & talk to people in the NFL or NCAA if need be. I believe that Walters needs much more experience before he tackles a massive rebuild with the Bombers. He needs to work under a GM who has those connections in order to get to know the people he needs to know in the US.

I hear Joe Mack is available..... 

 

Well, as far as Mack is concerned, stupid is as stupid does.

comment_25566

We need to be "responsible" enough to over spend to acquire top notch front office & back office management and the best coaching that money can buy (without being stupid about it).

 

The new stadium I guess has added about 3-5k more fans to each game: spend enough to keep them coming or we will have problems paying for the new facility

 

And we have to acquire the best QB whatever $ it takes .... we just cannot afford not to anymore (and yes, pass on 38 year old QBs)

 

I hope Wade Miller has the authority to do this.

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