August 25, 20222 yr comment_588865 27 minutes ago, BigBlueFanatic said: Common give the guy a break, according to turd-down, Marino was a lock to go to the NFL and blew it……………. Like he bought a ticket and lost it kind of lock?
August 25, 20222 yr comment_588866 Ban him before labour day. Don't need to risk collaros with POS players like that on the field.
August 25, 20222 yr comment_588867 1 hour ago, Wanna-B-Fanboy said: **** marino and the horse he rode in on. I am done letting any more of this in my headspace- let the league or the riders deal with him. Hopefully before Labour Day.
August 25, 20222 yr comment_588873 8 hours ago, GCn20 said: I thought my post was pretty clear that I was not encouraging brawling in the stands. I am most certainly not blaming the CFL for levying a fine for a rule both they, and the CFLPA, have agreed upon. My objection is that I believe that the rule is lame, or at the very least the parameters are layed out poorly. I see no imminent danger to players interacting with their own fans. I thought my post was pretty clear that I was not encouraging brawling in the stands. I am most certainly not blaming the CFL for levying a fine for a rule both they, and the CFLPA, have agreed upon. My objection is that I believe that the rule is lame, or at the very least the parameters are layed out poorly. I see no imminent danger to players interacting with their own fans. I thought my post was pretty clear that I was not encouraging brawling in the stands. I am most certainly not blaming the CFL for levying a fine for a rule both they, and the CFLPA, have agreed upon. My objection is that I believe that the rule is lame, or at the very least the parameters are layed out poorly. I see no imminent danger to players interacting with their own fans. It’s ok. You can have an opinion. It’s ok. You can have an opinion. It’s ok. You can have an opinion.
August 25, 20222 yr comment_588874 6 hours ago, Geebrr said: Absolutely goes back to Shivers. I don’t agree with any of your issues with his skin colour comments, but he was a mouthy *******. If you look up Roy Shivers you can see where skin colour affected his outlook & the way he approached life. Born in Arkansas in 1941, his father moved his family from the segregated south when he was young to Oakland, CA. He grew up in what was described as "The Projects". In his neighbourhood, there was only one park where Blacks could play & visit. Years later, he lost the starting qb position with his HS team because the Head Coach didn't want a black qb which enraged him. He grew up & was friends with Black Panthers founding members, Huey Newton & Bobby Seale. While never a member of the Black Panthers, he did agree with their grievances & politics. Here's a comment Riders GM Shivers made about his Head Coach, Danny Barrett, "The one thing I did get right was to hire Danny Barrett. He's a good young black coach. Most of our guys are young black kids. We've got a Head Coach that people like to play for." Skin colour was a big issue with Shivers.
August 25, 20222 yr comment_588884 9 hours ago, SpeedFlex27 said: If you look up Roy Shivers you can see where skin colour affected his outlook & the way he approached life. Born in Arkansas in 1941, his father moved his family from the segregated south when he was young to Oakland, CA. He grew up in what was described as "The Projects". In his neighbourhood, there was only one park where Blacks could play & visit. Years later, he lost the starting qb position with his HS team because the Head Coach didn't want a black qb which enraged him. He grew up & was friends with Black Panthers founding members, Huey Newton & Bobby Seale. While never a member of the Black Panthers, he did agree with their grievances & politics. Here's a comment Riders GM Shivers made about his Head Coach, Danny Barrett, "The one thing I did get right was to hire Danny Barrett. He's a good young black coach. Most of our guys are young black kids. We've got a Head Coach that people like to play for." Skin colour was a big issue with Shivers. Guy flat out said he wasn't looking to hire the best coach, he was looking to hire the best black coach. Now I think the guy was a miserable dude without the race stuff, but you can tell that the racism he dealt with in his life made him very very bitter and jaded towards racial issues.
August 25, 20222 yr comment_588886 Garrett Marino continuing to be employed in this league says a lot about the organization that continues to employ him. **** him and **** the Riders.
August 25, 20222 yr comment_588915 yeah...kinda sad....I could see putting up with it if he had an effect on the game like a Jefferson...Davis...Rose....but man...guys is run of the mill easy to replace...plus hurts your team with penalties and stupidity...total vindication of what a joke it is there under Oday and Dicklesson
August 25, 20222 yr comment_588920 2 hours ago, 17to85 said: Guy flat out said he wasn't looking to hire the best coach, he was looking to hire the best black coach. Now I think the guy was a miserable dude without the race stuff, but you can tell that the racism he dealt with in his life made him very very bitter and jaded towards racial issues. Damned few of us get a free ride in life. That doesn't mean we repeat the same stuff and not a good reason to commit seppuku as a GM. Barrett was a decent QB who played on some mediocre teams but was even less than mediocre as a head coach.
August 25, 20222 yr comment_588921 12 hours ago, SpeedFlex27 said: If you look up Roy Shivers you can see where skin colour affected his outlook & the way he approached life. Born in Arkansas in 1941, his father moved his family from the segregated south when he was young to Oakland, CA. He grew up in what was described as "The Projects". In his neighbourhood, there was only one park where Blacks could play & visit. Years later, he lost the starting qb position with his HS team because the Head Coach didn't want a black qb which enraged him. He grew up & was friends with Black Panthers founding members, Huey Newton & Bobby Seale. While never a member of the Black Panthers, he did agree with their grievances & politics. Here's a comment Riders GM Shivers made about his Head Coach, Danny Barrett, "The one thing I did get right was to hire Danny Barrett. He's a good young black coach. Most of our guys are young black kids. We've got a Head Coach that people like to play for." Skin colour was a big issue with Shivers. That stuff never bothered me. I understand why he feels that way.
August 25, 20222 yr comment_588926 After any kind of intent to injure suspension a follow up intent to injure fine should automatically be a one game suspension minimum. That should last the whole season. You can’t be sorry then do it again.
August 25, 20222 yr comment_588929 8 minutes ago, wbbfan said: After any kind of intent to injure suspension a follow up intent to injure fine should automatically be a one game suspension minimum. That should last the whole season. You can’t be sorry then do it again. to be fair...I don't think he was ever sorry.
August 25, 20222 yr comment_588935 13 minutes ago, Bigblue204 said: to be fair...I don't think he was ever sorry. True. 16 hours ago, 17to85 said: Ban him before labour day. Don't need to risk collaros with POS players like that on the field. Man if he takes a shot at collaros the fall out is going to be huuuuuge
August 25, 20222 yr comment_588939 13 minutes ago, wbbfan said: True. Man if he takes a shot at collaros the fall out is going to be huuuuuge We will have multiple players ejected out of the game I'm sure.
August 25, 20222 yr comment_588950 1 hour ago, wbbfan said: True. Man if he takes a shot at collaros the fall out is going to be huuuuuge I think we would see what a fight between MOS and dickie... lol. I would pay money to see that! Just kidding, I wouldn't want anything violent to happen. Just the mental image is too funny for me.
August 25, 20222 yr comment_588968 3 hours ago, Geebrr said: That stuff never bothered me. I understand why he feels that way. I do as well. But Shivers ran the Riders a certain way. He brought in a certain type of player. He set the culture in place for what is going on now. If you look back to the last couple of years of him as GM, the same stuff that is happening now was happening then. The bad behaviour of players on the field & in the community. Jim Hopson did try to change that culture after he fired Shivers & Barrett but it never totally went away. Edited August 25, 20222 yr by SpeedFlex27
August 25, 20222 yr comment_588970 6 hours ago, 17to85 said: Guy flat out said he wasn't looking to hire the best coach, he was looking to hire the best black coach. Now I think the guy was a miserable dude without the race stuff, but you can tell that the racism he dealt with in his life made him very very bitter and jaded towards racial issues. It had to. Those kind of experiences would definitely affect the way Shivers looked at life. The problem was, he never really looked for the best player. He'd look for the best black player. Or coach. As a GM, you can't bring that kind of baggage with you to work. You have to be open minded & bring in the best players & coaches regardless of colour or race.
August 25, 20222 yr comment_588971 19 minutes ago, SpeedFlex27 said: I do as well. But Shivers ran the Riders a certain way. He brought in a certain type of player. He set the culture in place for what is going on now. If you look back to the last couple of years of him as GM, the same stuff that is happening now was happening then. The bad behaviour of players on the field & in the community. Jim Hopson did try to change that culture after he fired Shivers & Barrett but it never totally went away. I personally think it’s a bit ridiculous to say people 20 years ago had anything to do with the culture in place now.
August 25, 20222 yr comment_588978 3 hours ago, Bigblue204 said: We will have multiple players ejected out of the game I'm sure. I suspect that the Riders would loooove that.
August 25, 20222 yr comment_588986 1 hour ago, Jesse said: I personally think it’s a bit ridiculous to say people 20 years ago had anything to do with the culture in place now. It’s amazing that Shivers can be psycho-analyzed by recollecting a comment and reading a Wikipedia page. Good for you to speak up.
August 25, 20222 yr comment_588995 6 hours ago, Bigblue204 said: We will have multiple players ejected out of the game I'm sure. It’d be Malice at the palace bad.
August 26, 20222 yr comment_589127 5 hours ago, Jesse said: I personally think it’s a bit ridiculous to say people 20 years ago had anything to do with the culture in place now. Why? What's changed since Shivers left? Please let me know.
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