January 16, 20187 yr comment_313810 12 minutes ago, Atomic said: How many players can the Bombers truly say we have the best at their position in the league? Probably just Stanley Bryant and Travis Bond. And it looks like we're going to let one walk. That's too bad. And the Oilers have McDavid, but I'd rather have Scheifele and Wheeler for less.
January 16, 20187 yr comment_313814 13 minutes ago, TrueBlue said: And the Oilers have McDavid, but I'd rather have Scheifele and Wheeler for less. Davis gonna lace up the skates now? EDIT: **** what thread am I in? Edited January 16, 20187 yr by Atomic
January 17, 20187 yr comment_313860 10 hours ago, TrueBlue said: Poll Question: Would you rather resign Bond or Randle? Randle is a great player. He could very easily end up a HOFer and in the all time great bomber db discussion. Bond is the best OL weve dug up since garrick jones, and even better then him. With the difference in rules between Dbs and OL, I think a single great OL can have a great impact then a DB. Bond is a bit younger, and as rare as his ability is finding that in a man his size is even rarer. Guard is generally consider easier to play then tackle, especially blind side tackle. But playing guard especially in the cfl at such a huge stature is also hard. I dont doubt he could play out side and be great at it. Make it a healthy Mo vs bond or randle vs hardrick and I think you have a very close call.
January 17, 20187 yr comment_313861 The only post that matters in this thread is the one that said "I'm pissed off we have to choose"....
January 17, 20187 yr comment_313866 9 hours ago, 17to85 said: Randle no question. I really do think we need to work towards 3 Canadians on the OL. Remember last time we did that? And Neufeld was part of that. He barely played when he started. I don't know how things will be any different this time.
January 17, 20187 yr comment_313870 1 hour ago, SpeedFlex27 said: Remember last time we did that? And Neufeld was part of that. He barely played when he started. I don't know how things will be any different this time. They've spent how many high draft picks on offensive linemen? That's how it will be different. We gotta play Canadians somewhere, might as well be in positions they've invested the draft picks in.
January 17, 20187 yr comment_313874 Yeah you'd think between Goossen, Chungh, Couture, Spooner, Neufeld, Cody Speller and the 7th overall pick this year, we can manage to start 3 Canadian OL.
January 17, 20187 yr comment_313906 And if they can't then they better re-evaluate their drafting strategy.
January 17, 20187 yr comment_313914 6 hours ago, Atomic said: Yeah you'd think between Goossen, Chungh, Couture, Spooner, Neufeld, Cody Speller and the 7th overall pick this year, we can manage to start 3 Canadian OL. I believe that is usually the number of linemen you'd want if trying to go 3 nationals on the line. one backup per plus another... so technically, we would be thin imo with "draft pick #1" needing to be considered as depth. I imagine we are angling towards this idea in theory but can we make it work with who we have now? Couture can backup Goosen and/or start as a guard I'd assume.. Spooner, Guard/centre backup. Speller, unknown. Neufeld start at guard/backup at guard. seems like we are 2 injuries away from panic mode.. Edited January 17, 20187 yr by SPuDS theorizing depth..
January 17, 20187 yr comment_313916 9 minutes ago, SPuDS said: seems like we are 2 injuries away from panic mode.. Any position on the team where this doesn't hold true?
January 17, 20187 yr comment_313920 18 minutes ago, 17to85 said: Any position on the team where this doesn't hold true? Or any team in the league.
January 17, 20187 yr comment_313923 Most teams only dress 6 OL on gameday, with the odd exception dressing 7. I think you'd find 5 National OL on the 46-man roster of a team starting 3, with perhaps another on the IR and another on the PR. We have the depth to start 3. I'm less concerned about depth and more concerned about whether we have a third man who is good enough to be the opening day starter at guard.
January 17, 20187 yr comment_313928 39 minutes ago, 17to85 said: Any position on the team where this doesn't hold true? well when you have multiple people in a unit where one person can fill a few spots, I tend to think its a bit different. 20 minutes ago, blue_gold_84 said: Or any team in the league. for o-line and d-line sure.. RB or LB on the other hand.. 1 minute ago, Atomic said: Most teams only dress 6 OL on gameday, with the odd exception dressing 7. I think you'd find 5 National OL on the 46-man roster of a team starting 3, with perhaps another on the IR and another on the PR. We have the depth to start 3. I'm less concerned about depth and more concerned about whether we have a third man who is good enough to be the opening day starter at guard. sure, on established teams with roles defined and everyone on the same page.. with us switching from 2-3 and not really knowing who is gonna go where (or how long they may last health/skill-wise) I think its a bit more prudent for us to have 6-7 linemen available out of camp and work it down to 5-6 possibly at some time. I get what people are saying, for sure but I also don't want to be in a situation where our o-line is in shambles by week 6 and we have no solutions for it.. o-line is too important to the success of this team.. we finally have one that is solid and dependable.. something we haven't seen here in damn near a decade..
January 17, 20187 yr comment_313929 On 2018-01-16 at 2:31 PM, TrueBlue said: No offence at all to Bond, but I'd argue Randle is more of the "core" of this team than Bond. No offence to Randle, but how good was this team before Bond entered the starting lineup? The entire O-Line went from below average to great, simply due to Travis Bond starting over Patty Neufeld.
January 17, 20187 yr comment_313930 3 minutes ago, SPuDS said: sure, on established teams with roles defined and everyone on the same page.. No, every team
January 17, 20187 yr comment_313931 17 hours ago, SpeedFlex27 said: Remember last time we did that? And Neufeld was part of that. He barely played when he started. I don't know how things will be any different this time. 33 minutes ago, Atomic said: We have the depth to start 3. I'm less concerned about depth and more concerned about whether we have a third man who is good enough to be the opening day starter at guard. Did no one watch the last few games of the year? Neuf played just fine. His health I can understand being in question. But his ability to play guard well has been established as far as I'm concerned.
January 17, 20187 yr comment_313932 If this team feels that Couture is ready and that Spooner/Neufeld is the right 6th OL... I'm okay with this - if Neufeld is pencilled in, this is another Hurl type move Again - Bond is worth both Foketi/Hardrick... we could easily have a team with both him and Randle that argument is a straw dog If Bryant does down in game one, I'd much rather have Bond shifting over than anyone else on the roster right now...
January 17, 20187 yr comment_313934 Some pretty deep insight here... ✔@Darren_Cameron CFL free agency less than a month away (four weeks yesterday), the #Bombers are still actively trying to pursue many of their pending free agents. Others will not be offered. Any questions on the offseason, send them over. Go Blue!
January 17, 20187 yr comment_313935 If Bryant was to go down in a game Hardrick I would think would shift over..and Neufeld to Right Tackle...any extended time off then in comes Foketti...and I'd be fine on that. To be honest..Foketti would start at a tackle position on any team in the league last year...and this year as well...he is a real luxury that we have been able to keep him satisfied for 3 years now and not have bolted on us
January 17, 20187 yr comment_313952 Once again if Chris Walby thinks Neufeld is very talented than I'll take his word over others.
January 18, 20187 yr comment_313954 there's never a doubt about Neufeld's talent....only his ability to stay healthy.....
January 18, 20187 yr comment_313955 I think this belongs here - another solid piece from Tait...catching up with Danny Mac to talk offseason FA camps... https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/01/17/danny-mcmanus-breaking-free-agent-camps/
January 18, 20187 yr comment_313958 37 minutes ago, Jpan85 said: Once again if Chris Walby thinks Neufeld is very talented than I'll take his word over others. I understand the logic here, at the same time walby similarly attached him self to some very underwhelming OL like this in the past. That said The issue with him isnt based on talent. Its consistency, health, and execution. He could back up for another 5-8 years in the league for sure. But if he is ever gonna be more then a below average starter and above average back up hes gotta figure it out quick fast and in a hurry. * some of the guys he has made similar claims about include Jermese jones, and benedict ibisi. Particularly he was very high on jones, they did a pretty good segment on the two and how much they had talked about playing the line. Edited January 18, 20187 yr by wbbfan
January 18, 20187 yr comment_313960 If Neufeld starts they will be lucky to get two-thirds of the season out of him. Hopefully there are better options to start at guard if Bond is not re-signed.
January 18, 20187 yr comment_313965 3 hours ago, SPuDS said: I believe that is usually the number of linemen you'd want if trying to go 3 nationals on the line. one backup per plus another... so technically, we would be thin imo with "draft pick #1" needing to be considered as depth. I imagine we are angling towards this idea in theory but can we make it work with who we have now? Couture can backup Goosen and/or start as a guard I'd assume.. Spooner, Guard/centre backup. Speller, unknown. Neufeld start at guard/backup at guard. seems like we are 2 injuries away from panic mode.. I don't remember Speller, how did they pick him up and when?
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