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  • Atomic
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    Stupid comment by Bezan, but in the grand scheme probably barely newsworthy when there is a president who brags about grabbing ******* and the leader of the provincial NDP writes songs about it and ph

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    This seems like an informed opinion.

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    I'm a supporter that one is innocent till proven guilty.  I've always believed this because if I was falsely accused of something I'm sure hoping this in in place.  However, is it an epidemic lik

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Before people react to Cosby without reading the story, legally it makes sense. In 2005 prosecutors could have charged him criminally, but questioned whether they had a reasonable likelihood of conviction beyond a reasonable doubt. They determined that they did not, so they chose not to charge him. This was a tactic to expose him in a civil suit. If he was charged criminally he could plead the fifth (refuse to testify) in the civil case on the grounds that it could incriminate him criminally. Without the threat of criminal prosecution, he could not exercise his right to plead the fifth as he did not face that legal jeopardy, and refusing to testify in the civil case in that instance would be considered contempt of court and he could be jailed for keeping silent. So he was forced to the stand for a deposition with a lower burden of proof and give evidence against himself. It was that deposition’s evidence that was unsealed in 2014 and then used to justify the criminal charges being laid. Two trials and one hung jury later, Cosby was convicted. So the court is saying you can’t force someone to testify against their right to silence by avoiding criminal charges, and then use that testimony to engage in criminal charges. Procedural gobbledegook, but actually protects people from forced self-incrimination criminally. 

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45 minutes ago, TrueBlue4ever said:

Before people react to Cosby without reading the story, legally it makes sense. In 2005 prosecutors could have charged him criminally, but questioned whether they had a reasonable likelihood of conviction beyond a reasonable doubt. They determined that they did not, so they chose not to charge him. This was a tactic to expose him in a civil suit. If he was charged criminally he could plead the fifth (refuse to testify) in the civil case on the grounds that it could incriminate him criminally. Without the threat of criminal prosecution, he could not exercise his right to plead the fifth as he did not face that legal jeopardy, and refusing to testify in the civil case in that instance would be considered contempt of court and he could be jailed for keeping silent. So he was forced to the stand for a deposition with a lower burden of proof and give evidence against himself. It was that deposition’s evidence that was unsealed in 2014 and then used to justify the criminal charges being laid. Two trials and one hung jury later, Cosby was convicted. So the court is saying you can’t force someone to testify against their right to silence by avoiding criminal charges, and then use that testimony to engage in criminal charges. Procedural gobbledegook, but actually protects people from forced self-incrimination criminally. 

But the Pennsylvania Supreme Court determined Wednesday that Cosby’s conviction in a second trial ― after the first ended in a hung jury ― was invalid. The court found that Montgomery County District Attorney Kevin Steele, who initiated Cosby’s arrest, was obligated to stand by a promise his predecessor had made not to charge Cosby, though there is no evidence that promise was ever put in writing, The Associated Press reported. 

The predecessor who made that promise to Cosby was Bruce Castor, who defended former President Donald Trump ― another man with dozens of sexual misconduct allegations against him ― in his second impeachment trial. 

Money talked and a predator walked.

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    It’s not just that a promise was walked back though. That promise crashed a legal dynamic where Cosby was forced to answer civilly for a claim without Fifth Amendment protection , which he would have had if criminal charges existed. Then they used the evidence from that hearing as a basis for laying criminal charges and as evidence against him criminally later. Kind of an entrapment scenario - he is forced to do something under threat of jail if he does not comply, then what he does is held against him as a way to get him into jail. The facts are abhorrent and I make no excuses for the man, but everyone is entitled to due process and he was not really given that, as I understand it. 

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    3 minutes ago, iHeart said:

    actually they aren't, his death episode aired before these allegations came out, however Peloton just dropped the ad he was in as his Big character

    The probability is that the producers got wind of this long before it became public and may have even convinced (read:paid) the complainants to hold off until they got their strategies figured out.

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    On 2021-08-25 at 2:55 PM, FrostyWinnipeg said:

    Adult film star Ron Jeremy has been indicted in Los Angeles on more than 30 counts of sexual assault stemming from allegations made by more than 20 women that span the last quarter-century, prosecutors said

    https://ktla.com/news/local-news/adult-film-star-ron-jeremy-indicted-in-l-a-on-more-than-30-counts-of-sexual-assault/

    I was partying with him at the viper room a few years ago, and I asked him; hey is their any time you wish you were just a regular guy?

    Instant **** no. Bet hed change that answer now

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    Molly Shannon Says Child Star Gary Coleman Attacked Her In A Hotel Room


    The "Saturday Night Live" comedian said the "Diff'rent Strokes" actor was "relentless." Molly Shannon said a “relentless” Gary Coleman repeatedly grabbed her while attempting to kiss and fondle her when she met him. (Watch the video below.)

    The “Saturday Night Live” alum’s troubling encounter with the late child star of “Diff’rent Strokes” (1978-86) seemed to occur during his run of fame from the sitcom.

    In an interview with Howard Stern on Tuesday, Shannon said she joined Coleman and the agent they shared in a hotel suite so she could talk with the popular actor. He appeared charming at first, she remembered. He held her hand and told her she reminded him of Kimberly, the character Dana Plato played on “Diff’rent Strokes.”

    But as soon as the agent left the room, Shannon said Coleman turned aggressive. Tickling morphed into an attack.

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    Frank Langella Fired From 'House Of Usher' After Sex Harassment Claim: Reports

    Frank Langella has been ousted from “The Fall of the House of Usher” series after Netflix determined that the 84-year-old actor committed sexual harassment on the set, TheWrap reported Wednesday, citing a production source.

    Deadline confirmed the firing and said Langella’s lead role of patriarch Roderick Usher, once portrayed by Vincent Price in a 1960 movie, would be recast, even though half of the production had been completed. Langella’s scenes will be reshot, according to the entertainment site.

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