Posted September 7, 20168 yr comment_221232 The current league wide standings: Top Six 8-1-1 Stampeders 7-3 Lions 6-4 Bombers 5-5 Eskimos 5-5 TigerCats 5-4-1 RedBlacks Bottom Three 4-6 Argonauts 3-7 Alouettes 1-9 Rough Riders At the moment Edmonton would cross over to play Ottawa ... is this going to change much if at all by playoff time?
September 7, 20168 yr comment_221233 Toronto isn't making it easy on themselves but when I watch them they look like a .500 team. They'd have to go 5-3 over the final 8 to make it to 9-9, though. 8-10 seems more likely for them. Can Edmonton and Winnipeg both do better than 8-10? I think so. So yes, there will be a crossover.
September 7, 20168 yr comment_221237 I lean towards crossover given how the teams are currently playing.
September 7, 20168 yr comment_221251 Unless Toronto has a Travis Bond clone or two waiting in the wings - there will be a crossover. Until they can give Ray better protection the playoffs are out of sight for them.
September 7, 20168 yr comment_221274 lots can change between Labour Day and the end of the season. I suspect there will be a cross over though for one simple reason.... too many wins for western teams when the Riders are sporting the record they are.
September 7, 20168 yr comment_221275 41 minutes ago, Mark H. said: Unless Toronto has a Travis Bond clone or two waiting in the wings - there will be a crossover. Until they can give Ray better protection the playoffs are out of sight for them. Yes.... 5 Canadians on the OL is nice, but if they can't protect, it doesn't make much sense... EDIT: My mistake, looks like they are only starting 4 Canadians on the OL now. Still... Edited September 7, 20168 yr by Atomic confusion
September 7, 20168 yr comment_221308 Toronto doesn't look like a very good team right now, even with Ray's great completion %. Their defense is slowly getting better and may be able to give them a chance in the second half, but it's looking more and more like a cross over year.
September 7, 20168 yr comment_221350 With a healthy ray and wrs To could make a run. But at this point it would be a surprise. The west is much stronger imop.
September 7, 20168 yr comment_221470 Book it. It will be EDM crossing over. Will play OTT in the Semi. And win. Edited September 7, 20168 yr by Zontar
September 7, 20168 yr comment_221584 I know it's been talked about ad nauseam over the years, but I detest the cross over. It's never felt right to me.
September 7, 20168 yr comment_221585 1 minute ago, HardCoreBlue said: I know it's been talked about ad nauseam over the years, but I detest the cross over. It's never felt right to me. Does a 6-12 team making it over a 9-9 team feel right?
September 7, 20168 yr comment_221587 3 minutes ago, Atomic said: Does a 6-12 team making it over a 9-9 team feel right? Has it ever been a 6-12 team vs a 9-9?
September 8, 20168 yr comment_221595 Maybe this isn't the place to bring this up, but does anyone else feel that the whole east/west division should be abolished? I mean, there's only 9 teams in the league... why not just have the top 6 make the playoffs? It seems this cross-over thing is an issue every year, I know the counter-argument would be that it makes games against your own division more important... but doesn't it also make non-divisional games less important?
September 8, 20168 yr comment_221597 40 minutes ago, TBURGESS said: Has it ever been a 6-12 team vs a 9-9? Worse. And there has been quite a few years when a joke of a team made it over a team around and over .500. http://cflpass.ca/bc-lions/history-cfl-playoffs-crossover/ • 1981 West Division Edmonton 14-1-1 Winnipeg 11-5 BC 10-6 Saskatchewan 9-7 Calgary 6-10 East Division Hamilton 11-4-1 Ottawa 5-11 Montreal 3-13 Toronto 2-14
September 8, 20168 yr comment_221600 1 minute ago, Rich said: Worse. And there has been quite a few years when a joke of a team made it over a team around .500. • 1981 West Division Edmonton 14-1-1 Winnipeg 11-5 BC 10-6 Saskatchewan 9-7 Calgary 6-10 East Division Hamilton 11-4-1 Ottawa 5-11 Montreal 3-13 Toronto 2-14 You could also point to a year like 2008. Edmonton was 10-8 and crossed over. Without that rule, Edmonton would have missed and the 4-14 Argos would have made the playoffs
September 8, 20168 yr comment_221606 8 minutes ago, Eternal optimist said: Maybe this isn't the place to bring this up, but does anyone else feel that the whole east/west division should be abolished? I mean, there's only 9 teams in the league... why not just have the top 6 make the playoffs? It seems this cross-over thing is an issue every year, I know the counter-argument would be that it makes games against your own division more important... but doesn't it also make non-divisional games less important? I like having the East and West divisions, personally. Makes for better rivalries and more intrigue throughout the season. The funniest thing about having 2 divisions in a nine team league is this: If you're in the West, you play 10 games against the West and 8 games against the East. If you're in the East.... you play 10 games against the West and 8 games against the East. What-the-what?! #funWithNumbers
September 8, 20168 yr comment_221642 3 hours ago, Atomic said: Does a 6-12 team making it over a 9-9 team feel right? yup sure does. different division.
September 8, 20168 yr comment_221645 I think the league has it right in the current format. The East vs West rivalry gives the Grey Cup a lot of its colour and history.
September 8, 20168 yr comment_221646 2 hours ago, Atomic said: You could also point to a year like 2008. Edmonton was 10-8 and crossed over. Without that rule, Edmonton would have missed and the 4-14 Argos would have made the playoffs But I could also argue the Argos did enough in their division to make it, Edmonton did not.
September 8, 20168 yr comment_221693 10 hours ago, HardCoreBlue said: But I could also argue the Argos did enough in their division to make it, Edmonton did not. Well I respect your opinion but I disagree fully!
September 8, 20168 yr comment_221700 13 hours ago, Eternal optimist said: Maybe this isn't the place to bring this up, but does anyone else feel that the whole east/west division should be abolished? I mean, there's only 9 teams in the league... why not just have the top 6 make the playoffs? It seems this cross-over thing is an issue every year, I know the counter-argument would be that it makes games against your own division more important... but doesn't it also make non-divisional games less important? I don't think there's much momentum to do this... but a way to consider it while still keeping divisional rivalries is making a playoff format something where the division winners take the top spots and the rest fall where they fall... the current "playoff" standings would look like this: 1. Calgary (bye, play the winner of 4 v 5) 2. Ottawa (bye, play the winner of 3 v 6) 3. BC (home team vs Edmonton) 4. Winnipeg (home team vs Ham) 5. Hamilton (I believe they'd have the tie-break on Edm) 6. Edmonton
September 8, 20168 yr comment_221701 26 minutes ago, Atomic said: Well I respect your opinion but I disagree fully! I agree with your respectful disagreement...
September 8, 20168 yr comment_221708 13 hours ago, Atomic said: I like having the East and West divisions, personally. Makes for better rivalries and more intrigue throughout the season. The funniest thing about having 2 divisions in a nine team league is this: If you're in the West, you play 10 games against the West and 8 games against the East. If you're in the East.... you play 10 games against the West and 8 games against the East. What-the-what?! #funWithNumbers On the rivalry front; the lack of stability within our own conference has been a huge difference maker for us. If the BB hadn't floated back and forth between West-East...(has it been 2 or 3 times)? we would have maintained our traditional primary rivalry with Sasky. If you were to poll the 30-40 year old Rider fans, I bet many would identify Calgary or Edmonton as their main rival. To me it is because they (and we) found a different enemy when we moved out of the western division. You can't maintain a decades long rivalry unless there is continuity over the generations.
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