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I'd suspect banned for talking crap about the mods here. Saw him on TEP also. Saw him posting Penton's article about OC's and actually taking credit like he wrote it. Dude has snapped. Gone cwazy

Morrissey isn't with the jets cuz they had like 9 guys on 1 way deals. Morrissey has been playing well. One bad game doesn't make a career. Man. The crapping on the young players is ridiculous

Ya. They offended people who didn't know the younger flair. Good.

Trouba Scheif Lowry +++

Not convinced that PAV starts

Ehlers and Scheif were good. Ladd looked slow. Ehlers and Scheif had their chances.

They played well the rest of the game tho. Refs sure seem like they will let other teams get away with things the jets don't. Penalty to Lowry was horseshit and St Louis was running around tired in their own zone. Hnidy said it best... that's a penalty for being stronger

No chance On either goal. Second one was just a breakdown on the pk by Stuart then trouba and finally stafford. Tarasenko scores every time on every goalie from there on the first one. 12 straight goals against and none for the jets. Last jets goal was myers vs Dallas

Stu doesn't deserve to either.

Hutch to start.... Pav to finish Has Maurice lost confidence in Pav?;

Playing first line and pp minutes. Got a PTO. Context is important

That's the problem. Stu is his favorite d man. That's a big problem. It's not about having favorites... it's about consequences. Treat everyone equal... if stu has lol has... a bad game... you sit him.

Pardy Chiarot or Postma. Stu needs to sit... I get these guys aren't exactly massive upgrades but... I'm not sure they'd be much worse. Postma plays.... has a bad game... benched... Chiarot plays... bad game... benched. Stu plays... bad game... plays again. .. bad game... again and repeat. Maurice relies on his vets too much. No consequences for them but a young guy messes up... benched. That's his history. Toronto Carolina Hartford even... it's the same thing. Rely too much on vets and sit the young guys. No consequences for the vets. The culture hasn't been changed yet.

Ladd is a top 30 LW when he's on his game... he's not elite... he's not a game changer... when I think elite I think guys who can change a game with one play... Ladds not that guy. Wheeler would be that guy for us or Buff but.... don't think I'd even consider them to be elite. Crosby. Ovi. P Kane. Toews. Stamkos. McDavid in a few years.... Tavares.... these are examples of elite players. I don't think I can put any jet in that type of group. Jets don't have any what I'd call superstars... Ehlers has potential to be one... maybe Connor and Scheif too but... right now the Jets really don't have that big time franchise player... they aren't built that way tho

Armia or Lipon would be the 2 I'd consider. Probably Lipon since he had a good camp

Oops typos there... Should have been a space between we and re and a letter a It's actually What We are Made Of.

LOL ladd with Scheif and Ehlers... c'mon Maurice. That's not gonna go well, guess he wants Ladd to drag down Scheif and Ehlers now too? Perreault struggling so you promote him to the top line? This is ass backwards stuff.. Peluso dressing? That helps how? Unreal. Stuart making tons of mistakes and taking dumb penalties every game is still playing? Awesome... no consequences for playing poorly.. nope, promote the unskilled vets like thorburn and peluso and sit the skilled guys.. Awesome. If these lines don't tell you why we are struggling.... my god, i don't know what does. 8-0 St Louis and the Jets don't get 20 shots on goal.

His winning track record is 1 season with the only qb outside of mitchell and harris who stayed healthy all year and a receiving group that was bought in free agency.

The problem is... Maurice doesn't treat the players equally, the rookies get a very very short leash, one mistake and they are on the bench or sitting... yet Stuart plays every game, Burmi has played every game, Whats the solution tonight? Play Peluso.. Yup. That is not using the roster properly.. we have tons of skill but... instead of promoting the skill and seeing what happens, maurice promotes thorburn to the third line and peluso is gonna play tonight cuz hey, why try to play hockey when you can just take dumb penalties over and over and over with no consequences. You can't sit them all right but... Heres what i'd do.. Myers,Toby <-- they play well together Buff,Chiarot <-- worked well last year Trouba, Pardy <-- why not Stu sits, consequences, a message needs to be sent that taking dumb penalties and playing like crap is unacceptable... Ladd,Little (why break those 2 up), Petan <-- why not, let the guy play with some skill guys Ehlers,Scheif,Wheeler Perreault,Lowry,Stafford <--- Playmaker Perreault with scorer Stafford and big bodied do all the dirty work Lowry 4th line is irrelevant but... Thorburn, Peluso and Burmi need to be benched to once again send a message that dumb play is not acceptable

The other thing is.... If the Jets win the stanley cup one day, Will Ladd or Buff be around? Because with Ladd, with Buff, we are a bubble team, they have made the playoffs once as a team with Buff and Ladd on it, just once... They were basically a .500 team for a long time or just above really.... Does trading Buff or Ladd or both... make us better? Short term? Probably not but in a year or 2 or 3... it probably does.

I'll go back to last year with the Buff situation... Jets were very good without Buff in the lineup, Buff was actually suspended for the last what? 4 games of the year last year and we played our best damn hockey at that point... It makes you wonder maybe if the Jets rely on Buff too much, yeah he's good when he's good he's really good but when he's bad, he's really bad and the entire team suffers.

I don't want to be this guy but does anyone ever look at from the other perspective here? I mean, I'm not saying what these guys did in Paris was cool, It's not and it's awful but... do we ever stop to think why they are doing this? Like, what made them hate the west so much? I mean, we got news stations like CNN reporting this stuff 24 7... that's fine but... do they report things when the USA or someone like that goes in to Syria lets say or Iraq let's say or Afghanistan even and drops a bomb on a bunch of innocent people? I mean, I think what ISIS stands for is awful and they are terrible people but are they really worse than the Americans who drop bombs or blow up things in their countires? Who stick their noses where it doesn't belong? Who have been trying to wipe these countries out since pretty much the Persian Gulf War... This stuff goes back a long time, it started back then... anyone who doesn't believe so, you are listening to the american based media a little too much.. They never talk about all the innocent civilians and kids that the americans have killed over the years... they don't talk about americans blowing up schools or things like this, churches... etc... They only tell you one side of the story, I'm not saying that what these "terrorists" did is right, but in a small kind of way, I can almost understand their reasoning behind it. I mean, how would you feel, if you lived on that side of the world and for 25 30 years, you go to bed with bombs dropping on your neighbors.. You know, some days in Canada, we can't go to school because of a blizzard, over there they can't because the Americans or Whoever blew up their damn school. I'm not saying i agree with what ISIS is doing or what they are all about, I really don't but at the same time, put yourself in their shoes for a minute... People make a big deal out of 911 and yeah it was awful but 911 has happened 100's of times in these places every year for 30 years pretty much. And people think going to war with them or dropping bombs is the answer? when in reality, going to war and dropping bombs on them is actually what started all this 25 30 years ago? Mind Boggling stuff really when you actually think about it. I've tried to understand for a long time why people would strap bombs on themselves and blow themselves up and take out people with them.. I think i've finally got it, cuz you know what... For years it's because bombs have been dropped on them, they are going to die one way or the other so take some people out with them i guess is their logic... Think about it... WAR is not the answer or the solution, it's the problem.

I think in the big picture, Drew Willy getting hurt had very little to do with MB being let go, it might be one of the reasons, but if there are 10 reasons he was let go, Drew Willy being hurt is probably reason number 10. I think you need to look at the O as a whole, not just as one player... not just with Drew Willy cuz the O was pretty much at the bottom of the league last year and Willy played most of the games... the production was lacking, in game adjustments were non existent or happened to late to make a difference, conservative play calling, getting away from the run game when at times it was actually working... the sacks, not just on Willy but on all our QB's.. Really don't think Willy getting hurt was one of the top reasons MB was let go, like i said, if there are 10 reasons, i'd suspect it's reason 10. There were a lot of issues with O this year, Willy getting hurt just made it worse than it was and it was pretty bad, even with a healthy Drew WIlly. Let's not pretend that our O was lighting up the league last year with MB in charge either, we were pretty much bottom of the league in terms of pretty much everything.

Well, this happens every year it seems... make a list of guys we want and then they are all signed by their team prior to FEB 15th... so i agree it's kind of pointless.

Unless LAPO has learned to be a bit more aggressive as a play caller the last couple seasons, Not sure I'd have much interest there... maybe tho, i guess it would depend on what he's learned being away from the game, The tie to Drew Willy in SASK i think is interesting and something that shouldn't be over looked. I'd pass on Berry, he's just past his prime.. Right now i'd be leaning more towards a young guy with potential, a Marcus Brady, Jarious Jackson, hell even Khari Jones type...Maas is interesting but at the same time, i'm not sure if he's just not the product of a QB having his best year in ages and a receiving core that was basically bought...