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plus you know Jones is the type of guy to make his starting qb a scapegoat if things don't go well and we all know how well Glenn deals with adversity.

I don't think it's ever a truly terrible idea to take a guy getting an NFL shot. Yeah you may never see them up here, but if you do then you're getting presumably one of the better players from the draft. Sometimes having a future guy in your back pocket isn't a bad thing either.

act like a ****** get treated like a ******, it's pretty simple.

We sometimes go to a classic simpsons trivia night in Calgary, seasons 1-11, watch 3 classic episodes and answer trivia questions, it's good times.

hey if we don't jerk off the Rider fans the league might not survive!

I am a beer snob, I only drink Henry K. Duff's Private Reserve

Or is it a case of Hufnagel kept him in line? I dunno seems to me that given his associations with a couple egomaniacs I would say that he's got some ego issues of his own but a guy as strong as Hufnagel keeps him in his place.

They're in the dictionary now so they're real enough for me. The cromulent use of those words really embiggened this thread.

Yeah there really is something to be said for doing subtle things to keep the defender guessing. Milt used to have a whole pile of tricks he could throw out there to make dbs look silly too.

I vote indifference. I don't know that there is enough in general to really get lost however if people want it then more power to em.

well to be fair Lapo was OC then too....

I thought cj Roberts was not as good as the others last year. Yeah he had some big ints but didn't seem to me to be as consistent.

The bottom line is that gbill was jealous of Mike because people liked Mike but they didn't like him as much. That's really all it came down to. Some people just can't see that they rub people the wrong way.

Oh I remember that thread now, oh the LOLs, Guy really got offended that people didn't bow down and kiss his ass.

everyone is looking for an edge, I still don't know that analytics are as useful in sports like football and hockey as people like to believe.

But the point is that it's mostly a scouting tool, whether it's self scouting or scouting players on other teams. I've said this plenty in lots of places, but any kind of statistics are only as valuable as the people interpreting them. Knowing how to use the numbers is far more important than actually having the numbers.

McFarlane seems to be a huge fan of Star Trek though so I would say it's less about making fun of it and rather paying homage to. So you don't even get your wish there.

But the hawks use it mostly as a scouting tool, and they use stuff that the fans and bloggers don't track. Plus in hockey it also has some discrepancy between stats and reality. Best example is Kris Russell. Guy has bad fancy stats yet still a good player and it drives stats nerds bonkers

The reason baseball works is because it's a series of one vs. one battles. Works less well in team play.

No the only reason people want these stats is so that they can make definitive claims without having to watch every minute. Players don't need them to know what they need to improve on, it's purely so you can make a judgement call on someone without having spent an exhaustive amount of time watching the player.

plus with all the ambiguity in what stats matter for a qb it makes it a hell of a lot easier to argue about who is better, which pairs nicely with drinking.

And for these reasons maybe we need to stop trying. I mean it's a position that really does rely on so many other people doing their job correctly it seems like a lot of wasted effort trying to distil an individual into a catch all stat that tells how good or bad they are. Can't we just watch the games and judge who is good and who isn't?

That's probably the biggest thing. I don't imagine that rugby has any more concussion problems than football and those guys play a physical game, they just have to make proper tackles and aren't trying to turn themselves into missiles to take the lazy way out of tackling.