TBURGESS

Talking about black and white. I never said it's GC or nothing. In fact, I said we had a successful team years before we finally won the cup in '84. You're trying to call 'doing things the way you think they should be done' success when the measurable's like the teams record or playoff wins tell a totally different story.

Context? 2-5 with the other team hanging 40+ points on you 3 times in a row isn't just going to be 'turned around'. The point is that DR was never a CFL HC again so there wasn't any other CFL team that thought he was the guy to turn their team around. Berry is the only coach who I think was prematurely fired. At least they did it in the off season when they had options for HC. Hiring an inexperienced HC was the problem. A mistake they'd repeat again and again. I'm simply don't call 1 and done after making the playoffs for the first time in 5 seasons successful. My 'bar' for success is higher than that.

No stats tell the whole story and success can be measured in different ways. Lots of folks on these boards have never seen a truly successful Bomber team, where success is measured in years, not 7 game win streaks. The last time we even had 2 winning seasons in a row was about 15 years ago in '02-03. From 1975 thru to 1996, the Bombers missed the playoffs once. That's what real success looks like and what I grew up with. (I started watching in the 60's got seasons tickets in the mid-70's) They didn't win a GC until '84, but they were still successful. We expected them to win every home game and were bummed if they didn't. You keep saying that we fired Ritchie too soon. He was 2-5 and the last 3 games weren't even close (48-17,41-24,49-27). Change was needed. I can't remember if there was anyone else available other than Daley who kinda turned the team around at 4-5 for the rest of the year. Ritchie is the only previously successful HC we hired to turn the team around since '99. Our mistake has been hiring newbies and crossing our fingers, hoping they can turn the team around. Berry had the best record of that bunch at .509 and Kelly (.389), idiot or not, is still ahead of O'Shea (.333).

We were a plus .500 team 9 times since 1990 (92-94, 2001-03, 07, 11 and 16). I'd call those successful years. We've only made the playoffs once in the last 5 years. That's not a lot of success IMO. The early 90's were a continuation of our success in the '80s, when we were +.500 8 out of 10 years and we never missed the playoffs. Now that was successful time for the Bombers, but it was a very long time ago, before a lot of people around here were even born.

IMO Franklin stays with Edmonton this year then goes to FA where he signs with the best team that offers him the starting job. Riders or Argos are most likely, with an outside chance of Montreal or Winnipeg depending on how this season plays out.

The Argos don't have a GM or HC are they in the worse situation or are the Riders?

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I'm not an animal. Bare feet or flip flops if the sand is too hot. I've got no idea why this interests anyone other than my wife.

When it comes to feet on the beach.... Yup.

FTR: I'm not Tom Burgess and I don't even wear sandals let alone socks and sandals.

I don't see anything negative about the post that you agree with, yet there you go again complaining about negative posting for complaining sake. I'm .

It's funny around here: Riders sign one of the best receivers in the league... Everyone else passed on him. Bombers sign a FA... He chose us because he wanted to be here and he signed for less money than other team(s) offered. Other teams sign a FA that we might have wanted... They overpaid for an overrated player.

Idiots who follow idiots are as hopeless as the idiots they follow. Stafford is his own man. He made his choice to follow Carter, if that's even what happened. Funny how Stafford is a 'lost soul' while Carter is 'hopeless'. I'll bet it would be the other way around if we signed Carter and Regina signed Stafford. OShea, a man of great wisdom? Really? LOL and a HAHA to that. WBBFan... I picked Trump as an example because he was the first guy I thought of when I thought of a head idiot we could all agree on, not to start a political discussion. I didn't say that folks who voted for him believed everything he stands for and that's not the point anyway. I said they were as much if not more to blame for Trump (the head idiot) getting the presidency.

IMO there very little if any difference between being the head idiot and following the head idiot. It's like being Trump vs voting him in, both are equally responsible. (NO, I AM NOT A RIDERS FAN)

I think you'd say exactly the same thing if we'd signed Carter instead of Stafford.

Kenny Stafford was fired the same day as Carter for the same reasons. We took a chance on Stafford. Regina will take a chance on Carter and I suspect the contract would already be signed if there wasn't any other teams who are interested. We certainly got Stafford for less money, but Carter is obviously the better player. In short.... teams will take a chance on talented players with a bad attitude if they think those players will help their team.

I've used it a couple of times, but I'd rather just watch the game then read a thread after the fact.

Hurl, Harris and Keeping can go. Probably only looking to keep 1 of Denmark, Gurley and McDuffie (My choice to keep). The rest should be offered 'Right Priced' contracts.

The Durant trade is about getting something for a QB that Regina wasn't going to sign anyway. It's about removing all doubt that Durant is going to be 'the guy' to turn Regina around. In Montreal it's about getting a vet QB to go with the youngsters. I doubt that it helps or hurts Nichols as Regina wasn't in the cards anyway and Montreal wanted a vet QB not a guy with a year as a starter under his belt.

They've got less SMS room this year than they've had for a while. In 2016 they used the entire 2016 SMS + Whatever they spent on extensions at the end of 2015 + Whatever they had to move the 2017 SMS in Medlock and Bryant's renegotiated contracts. This year, they have the 2017 SMS - the money moved into the 2017 budget for Medlock and Bryant.

Bombers release Kevin Glenn - http://www.bluebombers.com/2017/01/06/bombers-release-kevin-glenn/

Stamps - Entire coaching staff, Law, Hughes, Maver. Paredes. Lions - Entire coaching staff, Elimimian, Jeremiah Johnson. Redblacks - Entire coaching staff, Pruneau. Edmonton - White

My order: Franklin Durant Nichols

Merry Xmas! Hope everyone had a great day.

Assuming what you are saying is true... I'd guess that the CFL contract would't be released until/unless an NFL contract offer was made.