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What do we do with our RFAs?

Scheifele, Trouba, Lowry, Hutch, Armia, and Lipon are most likely to see time if re-signed.

I think everyone but the first 3 get moderate raises and 2-3 year contracts....not sure about Armia and how salary arbitration would work.

Lowry should get a 2 year deal around 1.75 per year.

Do we give Scheif and Trouba a 2 year bridge deal for 2 years and then lock them up long term or do we lock them up now?

Choice 1 If we bridge them for 7.75m over two years and then lock them up for 7m per for 8 years, it would cost 63.75m over 10 years.

Choice 2 If we lock them up for 8 year deals right now for 6m per year for 48m, it would leave 15.75m for the next 2 years for the 10 years above.

Both deals do not take into account the present and future value of money.

I'd be all over Choice 1. At the end of those contracts Scheif would be 33 and Trouba would be 32. At this age they wouldn't be looking for as big a contract as at the Choice 2 expiration date.

At the end of Choice 2, they will be 31 and 30. They'll want 6 year deals and be much in the same spot as Buff and Ladd.

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comment_181778

Does the re-signing of Buff change the decisions on the RFAs?

I'd say a 2 year bridge for Scheif and Trouba for about 4m to 4.25m a year each.

Offer Lowry 1.5m a year for two years.

Hutch I would offer a 650k two-way for 2 years.

Armia I would offer 1.5m a year for two years.

Lipon would get a similar deal to the one he is on.

The Jets are about 22.7m away from the cap for 2016-2017 after re-singing Buff. The above salaries leave 10.8m under the cap but Ladd isn't accounted for.

comment_181825

Sign Scheifele long term, for sure. No point in a bridge for him. Based on all we know... solid, ever-improving young player, excellent off the ice & high maturity AND I think he's another guy who genuinely likes it here.  Clearly looks to me like he's rounding into a 50-60 point #2 centre AT WORST.  

All that's worth $5M+/yr for me. Get 'er done. Lock up our post-Ladd-post-Wheeler captain until 2023.

comment_181832

I imagine Scheif will be easy to get done.  Seems like a fair, reasonable kid. 

Trouba will be interesting.  He could be super easy to deal with.  He could be tough to deal with.  If the "news" that his agent wants $7m per on a long term deal are any indication, he wont be that easy to deal with.

If the Jets give him $7m on a 7-8 year deal, then they have a lot of faith that he eventually becomes and surpasses a $7m D-man because he's not there yet.  If he will take under $6m then I'd say sure, lock him in.

But it makes more sense from a financial standpoint to 2-3 year bridge him at $4m-ish.  It gives you flexibility with Toby's contract and Morrissey's development.  That might even let them bring in Hamonic and not lose any of their existing top four D.  Plus, if he does become the player we all think he can be, then in 3 years you can max-term him and you buy more Free Agency time.

But financially, a trade of Trouba for Hamonic makes a lot of sense if we can secure another solid asset from the Isles.  Im all for keeping Trouba.  But if it was Trouba for Hamonic+, thats some solid D and solid cap certainty for several years with Buff, Myers, Ham all signed long term.

comment_181854
3 minutes ago, Jimmy Pop said:

Good points. But as you say, it would have to be Hamonic + ___________ for Trouba. JT's upside is way higher. 

Would the Isles be willing to include a 1st too? Would be a late pick, but potential there for Chevy to use it to get into the top3 picks if we aren't there already. 

Might be an option for Okposo as a UFA.  What about a blockbuster.  Ladd, Trouba for Okposo, Hamonic 1st?

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