July 15, 20159 yr comment_134134 I'm all for the 2 point try, but with Willy and not Marve making the plays. At least offers the illusion that we might throw the ball.
July 15, 20159 yr comment_134142 I'm all for the 2 point try, but with Willy and not Marve making the plays. At least offers the illusion that we might throw the ball.  On the contrary that eliminates the QB sprint to the corner. You can't lump Marve in with Goltz that easily.
July 15, 20159 yr comment_134198  another option - take a knee! No one asked you Tim Burke.   What are you, blind as a ref? Clearly that was Corey Chamblin.Â
July 15, 20159 yr comment_134230 another option - take a knee!No one asked you Tim Burke. What are you, blind as a ref? Clearly that was Corey Chamblin. Chamblin was channeling Tim Burke.
July 16, 20159 yr comment_134290 I'm all for the 2 point try, but with Willy and not Marve making the plays. At least offers the illusion that we might throw the ball. Â I disagree... I think the pass is very much in play with Marve... having Willy makes it 2-dimensional: pass or hand-off... Marve makes it 3-dimensional: hand-off, QB run or passÂ
July 16, 20159 yr comment_134300 I'm all for the 2 point try, but with Willy and not Marve making the plays. At least offers the illusion that we might throw the ball. I disagree... I think the pass is very much in play with Marve... having Willy makes it 2-dimensional: pass or hand-off... Marve makes it 3-dimensional: hand-off, QB run or pass In theory, sure. But in actuality when Marve has come in the overwhelmingly dominant play is QB cut left or right and try to dive between the guard and the tackle. After that has failed 2 or 3 times it has been hand-off to Marshall. Pass is never his first option (which kind of defeats the purpose of calling him a QB). Even his one attempted pass this year in that scenario was out of a run play on a sprint to the corner goal line which got shut off, and the pass itself?.......Yikes! Far too predictable at this point, and has been that way since the start of last season. Not sure if it a play-calling issue (they don't like the pass game down close) or a personnel issue (either the team or Marve doesn't like/trust his passing ability in that situation, or he and they know he'll abandon his progressions and just look to run at first instance), but Marve has consistently shown he is more comfortable with his feet than with his arm at QB in any situation, much less short yardage, where there have been no surprises as to what play is coming. And other teams appear to be catching on this year.
July 16, 20159 yr comment_134308  I'm all for the 2 point try, but with Willy and not Marve making the plays. At least offers the illusion that we might throw the ball.  On the contrary that eliminates the QB sprint to the corner. You can't lump Marve in with Goltz that easily.   For all of Goltz's faults... he was actually pretty money in the redzone (just couldn't actually get the ball into the redzone)
July 16, 20159 yr comment_134310   I'm all for the 2 point try, but with Willy and not Marve making the plays. At least offers the illusion that we might throw the ball. I disagree... I think the pass is very much in play with Marve... having Willy makes it 2-dimensional: pass or hand-off... Marve makes it 3-dimensional: hand-off, QB run or pass  In theory, sure. But in actuality when Marve has come in the overwhelmingly dominant play is QB cut left or right and try to dive between the guard and the tackle. After that has failed 2 or 3 times it has been hand-off to Marshall. Pass is never his first option (which kind of defeats the purpose of calling him a QB). Even his one attempted pass this year in that scenario was out of a run play on a sprint to the corner goal line which got shut off, and the pass itself?.......Yikes! Far too predictable at this point, and has been that way since the start of last season. Not sure if it a play-calling issue (they don't like the pass game down close) or a personnel issue (either the team or Marve doesn't like/trust his passing ability in that situation, or he and they know he'll abandon his progressions and just look to run at first instance), but Marve has consistently shown he is more comfortable with his feet than with his arm at QB in any situation, much less short yardage, where there have been no surprises as to what play is coming. And other teams appear to be catching on this year.   I agree that pass isn't the first (or best) option with Marve... but teams have to respect that he can throw... at the very least it should create more options for the D to consider...
July 16, 20159 yr Author comment_134311    I'm all for the 2 point try, but with Willy and not Marve making the plays. At least offers the illusion that we might throw the ball. I disagree... I think the pass is very much in play with Marve... having Willy makes it 2-dimensional: pass or hand-off... Marve makes it 3-dimensional: hand-off, QB run or pass  In theory, sure. But in actuality when Marve has come in the overwhelmingly dominant play is QB cut left or right and try to dive between the guard and the tackle. After that has failed 2 or 3 times it has been hand-off to Marshall. Pass is never his first option (which kind of defeats the purpose of calling him a QB). Even his one attempted pass this year in that scenario was out of a run play on a sprint to the corner goal line which got shut off, and the pass itself?.......Yikes! Far too predictable at this point, and has been that way since the start of last season. Not sure if it a play-calling issue (they don't like the pass game down close) or a personnel issue (either the team or Marve doesn't like/trust his passing ability in that situation, or he and they know he'll abandon his progressions and just look to run at first instance), but Marve has consistently shown he is more comfortable with his feet than with his arm at QB in any situation, much less short yardage, where there have been no surprises as to what play is coming. And other teams appear to be catching on this year.   I agree that pass isn't the first (or best) option with Marve... but teams have to respect that he can throw... at the very least it should create more options for the D to consider...   Not until he starts doing it, they don't.
July 16, 20159 yr comment_134314   I'm all for the 2 point try, but with Willy and not Marve making the plays. At least offers the illusion that we might throw the ball.  On the contrary that eliminates the QB sprint to the corner. You can't lump Marve in with Goltz that easily.   For all of Goltz's faults... he was actually pretty money in the redzone (just couldn't actually get the ball into the redzone)   yeah red zone TD's and standing around in the background in commercials seems to be his thing.
July 16, 20159 yr comment_134329     I'm all for the 2 point try, but with Willy and not Marve making the plays. At least offers the illusion that we might throw the ball. I disagree... I think the pass is very much in play with Marve... having Willy makes it 2-dimensional: pass or hand-off... Marve makes it 3-dimensional: hand-off, QB run or pass  In theory, sure. But in actuality when Marve has come in the overwhelmingly dominant play is QB cut left or right and try to dive between the guard and the tackle. After that has failed 2 or 3 times it has been hand-off to Marshall. Pass is never his first option (which kind of defeats the purpose of calling him a QB). Even his one attempted pass this year in that scenario was out of a run play on a sprint to the corner goal line which got shut off, and the pass itself?.......Yikes! Far too predictable at this point, and has been that way since the start of last season. Not sure if it a play-calling issue (they don't like the pass game down close) or a personnel issue (either the team or Marve doesn't like/trust his passing ability in that situation, or he and they know he'll abandon his progressions and just look to run at first instance), but Marve has consistently shown he is more comfortable with his feet than with his arm at QB in any situation, much less short yardage, where there have been no surprises as to what play is coming. And other teams appear to be catching on this year.   I agree that pass isn't the first (or best) option with Marve... but teams have to respect that he can throw... at the very least it should create more options for the D to consider...   Not until he starts doing it, they don't.   True... I guess part of my assumption is that he will throw if the play breaks down... I'm not sure if the coaching staff is going to call the passing play though...Â
July 16, 20159 yr comment_134332 If they run that triple option with Marve, Marshall and Cotton they'll get in at 75% of the time. That play is indefensible from the 3 yard line, only killed if the QB makes a bad read.
July 16, 20159 yr comment_134368 I'm all for the 2 point try, but with Willy and not Marve making the plays. At least offers the illusion that we might throw the ball. On the contrary that eliminates the QB sprint to the corner. You can't lump Marve in with Goltz that easily.  For all of Goltz's faults... he was actually pretty money in the redzone (just couldn't actually get the ball into the redzone) Ummm....isn't that an oxymoron, like military intelligence or feminine logic?
July 16, 20159 yr comment_134370    I'm all for the 2 point try, but with Willy and not Marve making the plays. At least offers the illusion that we might throw the ball. On the contrary that eliminates the QB sprint to the corner. You can't lump Marve in with Goltz that easily.   For all of Goltz's faults... he was actually pretty money in the redzone (just couldn't actually get the ball into the redzone)  Ummm....isn't that an oxymoron, like military intelligence or feminine logic?  I think he meant that, when they were in the red zone, he could run it in for a TD, but he couldn't throw a TD pass to save his life.
July 16, 20159 yr comment_134397    I'm all for the 2 point try, but with Willy and not Marve making the plays. At least offers the illusion that we might throw the ball. On the contrary that eliminates the QB sprint to the corner. You can't lump Marve in with Goltz that easily.   For all of Goltz's faults... he was actually pretty money in the redzone (just couldn't actually get the ball into the redzone)  Ummm....isn't that an oxymoron, like military intelligence or feminine logic?  OH, you're goin' to hell for that one!  I prefer "pretty ugly" or "Rider pride".
July 17, 20159 yr comment_134428 I'm all for the 2 point try, but with Willy and not Marve making the plays. At least offers the illusion that we might throw the ball. On the contrary that eliminates the QB sprint to the corner. You can't lump Marve in with Goltz that easily.  For all of Goltz's faults... he was actually pretty money in the redzone (just couldn't actually get the ball into the redzone) Ummm....isn't that an oxymoron, like military intelligence or feminine logic? I think he meant that, when they were in the red zone, he could run it in for a TD, but he couldn't throw a TD pass to save his life. How dare you drag common sense into this forum.
July 17, 20159 yr comment_134466 I'm all for the 2 point try, but with Willy and not Marve making the plays. At least offers the illusion that we might throw the ball. On the contrary that eliminates the QB sprint to the corner. You can't lump Marve in with Goltz that easily. For all of Goltz's faults... he was actually pretty money in the redzone (just couldn't actually get the ball into the redzone) Ummm....isn't that an oxymoron, like military intelligence or feminine logic? OH, you're goin' to hell for that one!I prefer "pretty ugly" or "Rider pride". Jumbo shrimp Scottish generosity
_4ce1be.png)
_4ccb55.png)
_b2ed7a.png)
Create an account or sign in to comment