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    Glad this conversation has received it's "official" start, there will be complications like the draft but I believe the benefits outweigh the negatives and I expect the CFL to implement the earlier st

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comment_125086

Wonder if buffalo green bay new England and others want the NFL to start earlier. Denver too.

They're weather isn't anything like we potentially get.
We potentially get bad weather. They are guaranteed it pretty much.
But their cold isn't nearly as cold as ours. They might get minus 10 Celsius. We could get minus 40 Celcius here in Winnipeg. That's what I meant.
comment_125090

They already play all July, the hottest month. Starting mid-June sounds ideal to me.

 

Probably not well known but the CFL regular season used to start in August and still end with the Grey Cup last week of Nov. or maybe Dec 3ish. Back then they managed to squeeze in the best of 3 western final(s) into one week too. It would be crazy to do that in the modern era but shows there is precedence for change.

comment_125104

The 2010 West Final was pretty cold. -24C at game time. Two days later it was a high of -30C.

 

Oddly enough it seems like the Grey Cup week tends to be warmer than the West Final week. The coldest air temp for a Grey Cup was Winnipeg's 1991 game at -17C. 

 

The coldest NFL game was the December 13, 1967 meeting of Green Bay and Dallas with an air temp of -25C and a windchill of -44C. 

comment_125141

I'm not a fan. I prefer fall football to June football.

Who said anything about getting rid of fall football? Its the winter football that sucks. From a business perspective it makes a lot of sense. What's attendance like in Late October? There is infinitely more opportunity to sell out a couple of June ganes then give away free tickets in late October or early November.

comment_125156

I'm not a fan. I prefer fall football to June football.

Who said anything about getting rid of fall football? Its the winter football that sucks. From a business perspective it makes a lot of sense. What's attendance like in Late October? There is infinitely more opportunity to sell out a couple of June ganes then give away free tickets in late October or early November.

Winter starts December 21. June is usually a combo of oppressive heat and storms when the cold fronts finally appear. I don't think it's necessarily an easier sell than October for regular season. Meaningful games in October and November will sell in most CFL cities, and where they don't sell changing the schedule would make little difference.

comment_125180

I can definitely see fans buying tickets anytime in June and then just going to the game - rain be damned,

BUT,

I also can also see fans waiting, in late October, until they have a better idea of conditions before buying tickets.

Where do you think the expression "fair weather fans" came from?

 

There's also a relatively long standing tradition of early season games having difficulty selling league-wide and interest really picking up at Labour Day, kind of when people settle back into their working lives and spend less time at the cottage.  That may have shifted in recent years a bit.  To me, this issue is really low on the issues facing the league, and the potential to be damaging to the brand is more than the potential of it really making any difference at all.

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comment_125195

I can definitely see fans buying tickets anytime in June and then just going to the game - rain be damned,

BUT,

I also can also see fans waiting, in late October, until they have a better idea of conditions before buying tickets.

Where do you think the expression "fair weather fans" came from?

 

The drop off in attendance is also exacerbated by televised games and having the option of watching the game from the comfort of the living room instead of freezing your ass off. 

comment_125248

The CFL could also look at whether training camp needs to be as long as it is...maybe shave a week off main TC? With the number of veterans taking a week off anyways for "injuries", it seems most veterans don't need it to be as long.

But ya, I'd like to see more warm weather games and the Grey Cup played no later than mid November.

People already complain that the first couple games are glorified exhibition games and you want to shorten preseason even more?
Not fewer games, but maybe less practice time. Maybe start rookie camp earlier as veterans don't seem to need/want as much practice time during TC. I'm just looking for some creative solutions, unlike you who just likes to complain.

Yeah cause less practice time is sure to make those first games better played. You say creative ideas, I say stupid ideas not even worth considering. Longer preseason would be better for the leagues overall play

comment_125250

The CFL could also look at whether training camp needs to be as long as it is...maybe shave a week off main TC? With the number of veterans taking a week off anyways for "injuries", it seems most veterans don't need it to be as long.

But ya, I'd like to see more warm weather games and the Grey Cup played no later than mid November.

People already complain that the first couple games are glorified exhibition games and you want to shorten preseason even more?
Not fewer games, but maybe less practice time. Maybe start rookie camp earlier as veterans don't seem to need/want as much practice time during TC. I'm just looking for some creative solutions, unlike you who just likes to complain.
Yeah cause less practice time is sure to make those first games better played. You say creative ideas, I say stupid ideas not even worth considering. Longer preseason would be better for the leagues overall play
Your reply really doesn't surprise me. You're the "Debbie Downer" of MBB.

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