I realize Montreal and Toronto have played one less game, but as of today, we've given up the most points in the league and yet we are 4 - 1. All this despite what most would say has been a very good defence? Must be a mirage LOL ...

 

We've also scored the most points in the league

On a per game basis we've given up 22.8 points per game. For comparison sake of points given up per game:

Calgary: 13

Edmonton: 16.8

BC: 18.4

Sask: 28

Ottawa: 26.6

Montreal: 28.3

Toronto: 28

Hamilton: 23

If you go by pure points against, which doesn't consider points given up on special teams or the offense, the Bombers are 4th best in the league on a per game basis. Five teams are worse than the Bombers. Need to compare apples to apples.

What's even weirder is that we are still following Will Ford on Twitter.  Make it stop, please.

On the other side of weird if we we're still in the East we would have secured a playoff spot by now.

 

If the other teams play some more 10 - 7 games, our defence is going to look terrible.  

 

One must also consider:

- 6 new starting QB's with their teams (Burris, Smith, Collaros, Willy, Mitchell, Glenn)

- 4 new Head Coaches with their teams (Higgins, O'Shea, Campbell, Jones)

- Penalty Parties

- 24 new starters in the league 

- Weather (Windy and Rainy in Edmonton and Saskatchewan)

Add to that is the thinned out Canadian talent across the league especially along the oline

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Updated Points Against per Game:

 

1. CGY - 13.0
2. EDM - 16.8
3. BC - 18.4
4. WPG - 22.8
5. HAM - 23.0
6. SSK - 23.25
7. OTT - 28.25
8. MTL - 28.25
9. TOR - 29.8

By the end of week 11, the entire East division and Saskatchewan, maybe BC too, will have more PA than the Bombers.

OP is trying to make the case that the Bombers have a bad defense, when some simple math shows the Bombers D is in the top half of the league.

I love this d and the way they've been playing, sorry if my intent got misunderstood. Not really saying they have a bad D, just interesting that they have allowed so many points with the 4 - 1 record. Of course as mentioned by other posters scoring the most points has helped with the record as well.

I love this d and the way they've been playing, sorry if my intent got misunderstood. Not really saying they have a bad D, just interesting that they have allowed so many points with the 4 - 1 record. Of course as mentioned by other posters scoring the most points has helped with the record as well.

But the point is they haven't allowed a lot.

If they keep limiting teams the way they did BC they'll lead in fewest allowed and points scored soon.

I'd argue we're a top three defence for sure, if they wrapped up against Edmonton, we'd be looking a hell of a lot better statistically... So far so good, let's see if it keeps up

I love this d and the way they've been playing, sorry if my intent got misunderstood. Not really saying they have a bad D, just interesting that they have allowed so many points with the 4 - 1 record. Of course as mentioned by other posters scoring the most points has helped with the record as well.

no, it's not because with any basic logic applied you can see that the numbers are meaningless when some teams have 2 full games less played and more still have 1 full game less played. Totals are meaningless when the number of games played is so uneven. 

Either way... end of season stats are what matters with Etch.  Teams will have lots of film by Labour Day, then we will find out just how good his schemes are...  His M.O. has always been a second half slump.

I love this d and the way they've been playing, sorry if my intent got misunderstood. Not really saying they have a bad D, just interesting that they have allowed so many points with the 4 - 1 record. Of course as mentioned by other posters scoring the most points has helped with the record as well.

You don't understand. Look at the average points given up per game noted a couple times in this thread.

Either way... end of season stats are what matters with Etch. Teams will have lots of film by Labour Day, then we will find out just how good his schemes are... His M.O. has always been a second half slump.

Teams already have lots of film. It's not like he is doing anything here that he hasn't done before in his other stops.