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  • TrueBlue
    TrueBlue

    Yes, but how has his driving been?

  • comedygeek
    comedygeek

    First question: Why do so many people here seem to know so much about different steroids, their uses, "cycles", etc.?   Second question: How are so many people seemingly okay with athletes using the

  • Woooooooow.. Thats a big blunder on his part.. Way to ruin the start of his career...

comment_49241

Strike one against him, he won't be suspended but he's now subject to mandatory testing. It automatically carries over from the CIS and if he's caught a second time, he's suspended for three games.

 

I'm curious to see how he handles it, because trying to say he wasn't sure that he took it would be a red flag for me. You're not likely to find trace amounts of Winstrol in anything you'd take regularly. Chances are if he was found with it in his system, he KNEW he was taking it.

comment_49242

Here's Smith's account:

I can assure you it was not my intention to use a banned substance or to try to beat the system. I did not properly research the contents of supplements I obtained online and I will accept the consequences of my actions.

Since it was inadvertent on my part, I have asked to have my B sample tested and am waiting for the results.

http://ww2.canadafootballchat.com/cfl-combine-drug-test-failed/

And the CFL's reaction:

http://cfl.ca/article/concordias-quinn-smith-tests-positive-for-banned-substance

comment_49249

how this affect his CFL stock, Mike? big time ?

 

Impossible to say. It's going to be all about how much credit executives give the steroids for his combine showing.

 

Without knowing the levels found in his sample, it's impossible to tell.

 

What I will say is that it's not going to UP his draft stock, that's for sure. He'll certainly get drafted and for the sake of squashing any speculation, I would definitely not count on him suddenly being available with our 3rd rounder.

comment_49250

The one thing worth pointing out is that while he won't immediately face a CFL suspension, he's got CIS eligibility left and that likely went out the window. I'm pretty sure the suspension will be 2 years in the CIS.

 

Yep.  Could also put Concordia under a microscope from CIS and CCES.  Hopefully the other Concordia guys in the draft aren't using the same trainer.

comment_49251

If it's determined he knowingly took this banned substance, can the CFL governing body take more of a hardline stance other than mandatory testing and harsh words?

If they can, they should and send a message to all players/CFL teams that this will not be tolerated even it it means top talent not playing in this league. If they don't follow-through on where they stand with performance enhancing drugs, that also sends a message but with a different meaning.  

comment_49252

If it's determined he knowingly took this banned substance, can the CFL governing body take more of a hardline stance other than mandatory testing and harsh words?

If they can, they should and send a message to all players/CFL teams that this will not be tolerated even it it means top talent not playing in this league. If they don't follow-through on where they stand with performance enhancing drugs, that also sends a message but with a different meaning.  

 

I don't think any professional league distinguishes between guilt and guilt with intent. It is not up to them to determine intent. I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure that even if he showed them a picture of a needle in his butt, he'd be penalized the same.

 

To be honest, all this "I didn't know" stuff is just window dressing anyways. If you're taking stanozolol, the chances that you didn't know it are incredibly slim and anyone in professional sports would know that. They'll deflect and claim ignorance, but the reality of the situation is that if he tested positive, it's not because he didn't know he was taking it, it's because he ****** up his cycle.

comment_49256

 

If it's determined he knowingly took this banned substance, can the CFL governing body take more of a hardline stance other than mandatory testing and harsh words?

If they can, they should and send a message to all players/CFL teams that this will not be tolerated even it it means top talent not playing in this league. If they don't follow-through on where they stand with performance enhancing drugs, that also sends a message but with a different meaning.  

 

I don't think any professional league distinguishes between guilt and guilt with intent. It is not up to them to determine intent. I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure that even if he showed them a picture of a needle in his butt, he'd be penalized the same.

 

To be honest, all this "I didn't know" stuff is just window dressing anyways. If you're taking stanozolol, the chances that you didn't know it are incredibly slim and anyone in professional sports would know that. They'll deflect and claim ignorance, but the reality of the situation is that if he tested positive, it's not because he didn't know he was taking it, it's because he ****** up his cycle.

 

Agree. By knowingly I mean his story will look like swiss cheese, full of inconsistencies, lacking logic, contradictions and not so much a smoking gun of pictures and needle holes.

comment_49265

 

Good lord, what's with all the players being caught using illegal drugs? Seriously, get your **** together, players. Get some integrity.

Oh God don't be so naive.

 

University educated man intent on playing in the CFL & he claims he didn't know that what he was taking (Stanozolol) was a steroid? Who is being naive here? I think it's you Atomic. 

comment_49266

Good lord, what's with all the players being caught using illegal drugs? Seriously, get your **** together, players. Get some integrity.

Oh God don't be so naive.

University educated man intent on playing in the CFL & he claims he didn't know that what he was taking (Stanozolol) was a steroid? Who is being naive here? I think it's you Atomic.

I don't think you understood what he was implying.

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