November 30, 20186 yr comment_371276 Laine? Hasn't even scored his fourth hat trick this month yet. Getting lazy.
November 30, 20186 yr comment_371288 5 hours ago, HardCoreBlue said: Helle's due for a shutout tonight. If you say it before the game, it's not a jinx. In other words, bounce back game. ,:) Ummm. #notevenclose
November 30, 20186 yr comment_371309 1 minute ago, blue_gold_84 said: Take the win but maaaaaaan... What is with this team?! Reminds me of TO right now. All O - No D. And we all know how important the D is, right ?
November 30, 20186 yr comment_371310 Just now, JCon said: Reminds me of TO right now. All O - No D. And we all know how important the D is, right ? Except the blue foliage is actually playing pretty strong, consistent defensive zone hockey this season. The forwards have bought in to whatever Babsy is selling. And they're still scoring a ton of goals.
November 30, 20186 yr comment_371311 D was the reason Helle looked better last year. Team D has been a mess so far this season, and Helle looks all the worse for it. Not sure why, but something is amiss...
November 30, 20186 yr comment_371314 Just now, Noeller said: D was the reason Helle looked better last year. Team D has been a mess so far this season, and Helle looks all the worse for it. Not sure why, but something is amiss... He's letting in some goals he never did last season. Team D is part of it but he's not making saves he made last year. My concern is, the previous year when he struggled, he wasnt able to adjust until the off-season. Hopefully he can get back in his groove or its going to be a fight all season.
November 30, 20186 yr comment_371316 Just now, blue_gold_84 said: Except the blue foliage is actually playing pretty strong, consistent defensive zone hockey this season. The forwards have bought in to whatever Babsy is selling. And they're still scoring a ton of goals. Yes, I phrased that poorly. The Jets remind me of how TO were playing. They're a hot-mess right now. Thank god they've got some kids that can shoot. The Jets look bad right now. Getting wins, so hopefully they can figure it out before too long.
November 30, 20186 yr comment_371319 I get the criticism directed at Hellebuyck and agree with it to a point, but he's not getting the help in front he got last season. Team D and netminding work hand in hand. Neither is working at the moment.
November 30, 20186 yr comment_371320 4 minutes ago, blue_gold_84 said: I get the criticism directed at Hellebuyck and agree with it to a point, but he's not getting the help in front he got last season. Team D and netminding work hand in hand. Neither is working at the moment. 100% this.......
November 30, 20186 yr comment_371322 If Buff is out for any length of time, they're going to have to look at a trade but bringing in another borderline bottom NHL'er wont really help. And they likely cant afford a top 4 guy.
November 30, 20186 yr comment_371324 Just now, The Unknown Poster said: If Buff is out for any length of time, they're going to have to look at a trade but bringing in another borderline bottom NHL'er wont really help. And they likely cant afford a top 4 guy. Is it time to move another prospect and picks?
November 30, 20186 yr comment_371335 1 hour ago, JCon said: Is it time to move another prospect and picks? No
November 30, 20186 yr comment_371338 Team D is horrible and non existent. There comes a point when the team starts to tune the coach out and im wondering if we are seeing that now. With that being said, Shilling is awful and he and Myers were on the ice for several goals doing nothing... Helle needs to make the save on the 3rd goal, smaller equipment playing a role here but.. He was and has been hung out to dry this season. Broissoit got lit up in St Louis so its not Helle exclusive.. Its the lack of team D altho.. When Chiarot or Shilling is in your top 4 and Maurice refuses to play the 4th line... Everybody else gets overplayed and tired and make dumb mistakes Edited November 30, 20186 yr by Goalie
November 30, 20186 yr comment_371339 1 minute ago, The Unknown Poster said: Whats Toby Enstrom up to? He makes zero difference as 1 guy isnt the problem.. Its the lack of Team D.. Enstrom literally missed half the year last year due to injury... He makes no difference. The forwards buying in to D first hockey does tho. Right now they just wanna score and not defend at all.
November 30, 20186 yr Author comment_371342 Goats of the Game sponsored by Goap, soap made from goats. Petan -3 Roslo -3 Lemieux -3 Chiarot -3 Edited November 30, 20186 yr by FrostyWinnipeg
November 30, 20186 yr comment_371344 2 minutes ago, FrostyWinnipeg said: Goats of the Game sponsored by Goap, soap made from goats. Petan -3 Roslo -3 Lemieux -3 Chiarot -3 Means nothing.
November 30, 20186 yr comment_371351 23 minutes ago, Goalie said: He makes zero difference as 1 guy isnt the problem.. Its the lack of Team D.. Enstrom literally missed half the year last year due to injury... He makes no difference. The forwards buying in to D first hockey does tho. Right now they just wanna score and not defend at all. I want the defense to buy into D. They're all over the place and look confused. They lack organization.
November 30, 20186 yr Author comment_371353 1 minute ago, JCon said: I want the defense to buy into D. They're all over the place and look confused. They lack organization. Well so far between this year and last year the big diff on D is Myers/Kuli. I'm still leaning on the not really missing Toby.
November 30, 20186 yr comment_371368 He's his own worst critic, which isn't exactly a bad thing. He'll be better tomorrow.
November 30, 20186 yr comment_371380 2 hours ago, Goalie said: Team D is horrible and non existent. There comes a point when the team starts to tune the coach out and im wondering if we are seeing that now. With that being said, Shilling is awful and he and Myers were on the ice for several goals doing nothing... Helle needs to make the save on the 3rd goal, smaller equipment playing a role here but.. He was and has been hung out to dry this season. Broissoit got lit up in St Louis so its not Helle exclusive.. Its the lack of team D altho.. When Chiarot or Shilling is in your top 4 and Maurice refuses to play the 4th line... Everybody else gets overplayed and tired and make dumb mistakes I'm no goalie expert and nor an expert on what D system Jets employ but it appears to me that Helle plays pretty deep in his crease. If our D is faltering more than usual does Helle playing deep in his crease add to our struggles of late keeping the puck out of our net?
November 30, 20186 yr comment_371381 2 minutes ago, HardCoreBlue said: I'm no goalie expert and nor an expert on what D system Jets employ but it appears to me that Helle plays pretty deep in his crease. If our D is faltering more than usual does Helle playing deep in his crease add to our struggles of late keeping the puck out of our net? Funny story... I'm in the midst of reading Kelly Hrudey's book, and in it he mentions that if you ever see a goalie playing too deep in his net, he's having confidence issues. Goalies feel safer closer to the net, so in bad times, they will be playing way too deep rather than confidently challenging the shooter and cutting down the angle. Edited November 30, 20186 yr by Noeller
November 30, 20186 yr comment_371384 3 hours ago, Goalie said: He makes zero difference as 1 guy isnt the problem.. Its the lack of Team D.. Enstrom literally missed half the year last year due to injury... He makes no difference. The forwards buying in to D first hockey does tho. Right now they just wanna score and not defend at all. In theory I agree. I was being tongue in cheek. But with injuries and poor play, Toby is an upgrade over what we have now. But hindsight is 20/20. Jets will have to upgrade their D. Im not sure how. If Myers is perceived as having value, perhaps you can move him out for a younger player. Is there a well touted young D that is looming RFA and might not re-sign with their team? That player might be a target. Or if Trouba is gone, and you can get TWO d in return, do it. But it seems unlikely (why would a team who values Trouba trade good D). Niku has to get up to speed fast. And Kulikov being long term injured hasnt helped matters. If this was still the summer, a solid free agent D would be top of the list.
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