August 18, 20177 yr comment_284406 The use of steroids have decreased quite a bit in my experience among youth football players over the 20 or so years I've been involved including through junior and CIS. It's incredibly noticeable when someone is on them now. I think part of it is a positive peer pressure and part of it is that sport specific training has taken off and most realize that using steroids and growth hormone for any length of time is actually detrimental to being on the field. More of an issue now are other stimulants, amphetamines and "drugs of abuse" meaning stuff you buy on the street and take at parties.
August 18, 20177 yr comment_284409 48 minutes ago, Booch said: My first expose...:) Agreed. Very enlightening.
August 18, 20177 yr comment_284415 Agreed, and it's a good thing. The advanced training methods now, better supplements, more focus on healthy living and eating as a lifestyle and not just periodically has been a huge change in it. Also too now it is almost ridiculed now and looked down on when someone is found to be juicing....and thats a good thing
August 21, 20177 yr comment_284905 On 8/18/2017 at 7:06 AM, Booch said: Agreed, and it's a good thing. The advanced training methods now, better supplements, more focus on healthy living and eating as a lifestyle and not just periodically has been a huge change in it. Also too now it is almost ridiculed now and looked down on when someone is found to be juicing....and thats a good thing What about OxyContin?
August 21, 20177 yr comment_284921 That's just pain medication.. it's normal for some things but not handed out as frequent as it used to be. That's what I was prescribed for my 2 knee reconstructions
August 21, 20177 yr comment_284922 48 minutes ago, Booch said: That's just pain medication.. it's normal for some things but not handed out as frequent as it used to be. That's what I was prescribed for my 2 knee reconstructions Players get tested for it as a performance enhancement drug. And it's dangerous, highly addictive.
August 21, 20177 yr comment_284924 yeah it certainly is...hence why not given as much now. I don't see it as a performance enhancer tho...probably would be more of a decreased performance truthfully
August 21, 20177 yr comment_284978 4 hours ago, Booch said: yeah it certainly is...hence why not given as much now. I don't see it as a performance enhancer tho...probably would be more of a decreased performance truthfully only way I can see it as an "enhancer" would be that it completely numbs out any pain like a cortizone shot can do.. that and you get euphoric feeling from it so maybe you don't consider that you could be hurting yourself?? but ya I'd look at it more so as a substance to be abused as opposed to an enhancer..
August 21, 20177 yr comment_284985 10 hours ago, SpeedFlex27 said: Players get tested for it as a performance enhancement drug. And it's dangerous, highly addictive. I agree with the second part... but I'm wondering how you consider it a performance enhancer?... Are you just saying that's how they view it or do you think it enhances performance?
August 21, 20177 yr comment_284988 22 minutes ago, SPuDS said: only way I can see it as an "enhancer" would be that it completely numbs out any pain like a cortizone shot can do.. that and you get euphoric feeling from it so maybe you don't consider that you could be hurting yourself?? but ya I'd look at it more so as a substance to be abused as opposed to an enhancer.. Actually, I had a root canal from hell once and oxycodone did nothing, and I mean NOTHING, to numb that pain. I don't remember any euphoria either. Now, the shot of Demerol, that was different.
August 21, 20177 yr comment_284991 Just now, J5V said: Actually, I had a root canal from hell once and oxycodone did nothing, and I mean NOTHING, to numb that pain. I don't remember any euphoria either. Now, the shot of Demerol, that was different. I've heard that from others as well.. nerve pain doesn't seem to be reduced from it, oddly enough.. That or you may just be genetically dispositioned for it not to work on you..
August 21, 20177 yr comment_284994 delete plz Edited August 21, 20177 yr by SPuDS ended up in wrong wrong thread for some reason..
August 21, 20177 yr comment_285006 ACTUALLY I have been told by team surgeon that mouth/tooth pain is the most extreme and the hardest to alleviate.
August 21, 20177 yr Author comment_285015 8 minutes ago, Booch said: ACTUALLY I have been told by team surgeon that mouth/tooth pain is the most extreme and the hardest to alleviate. I'd testify to that......blech.
August 21, 20177 yr comment_285043 6 hours ago, Booch said: yeah it certainly is...hence why not given as much now. I don't see it as a performance enhancer tho...probably would be more of a decreased performance truthfully When my son played for the Rifles at least one player was doing Oxycodin. The story I heard was that some testers from the CJFL came in to do random testing & the player fled the locker room before they saw him so he was never tested. Edited August 21, 20177 yr by SpeedFlex27
August 21, 20177 yr comment_285057 Probably didn't want to have to face the music as to why he was taking it if not recovering from surgery or something. Also it is a controlled substance too, so having it without a prescription is against the law
August 21, 20177 yr comment_285060 11 minutes ago, Booch said: Probably didn't want to have to face the music as to why he was taking it if not recovering from surgery or something. Also it is a controlled substance too, so having it without a prescription is against the law This is a pretty sensitive subject. I don't think I should say much more although I could. This happened years ago. Edited August 21, 20177 yr by SpeedFlex27
August 21, 20177 yr comment_285061 really how would they know unless they seen him popping pills..and even then could have been anything...seen lots of times guys popping 3 or 4 sudafeds before a game..at halftime..total over the counter meds but actually help as a performance boost
August 21, 20177 yr comment_285062 Demerol and Morphine combined did a job for me, alright.....at least the parts I remember.....
August 21, 20177 yr comment_285065 8 minutes ago, Booch said: really how would they know unless they seen him popping pills..and even then could have been anything...seen lots of times guys popping 3 or 4 sudafeds before a game..at halftime..total over the counter meds but actually help as a performance boost Yeah, probably right.
August 21, 20177 yr comment_285070 1 hour ago, SpeedFlex27 said: When my son played for the Rifles at least one player was doing Oxycodin. The story I heard was that some testers from the CJFL came in to do random testing & the player fled the locker room before they saw him so he was never tested. For performance enhancement or recreationally? Haven't been prescribed anything stronger than a T3 but can't imagine anything that relaxes muscles to that extent could truly be performance enhancing.
August 21, 20177 yr comment_285071 Just now, JuranBoldenRules said: For performance enhancement or recreationally? Haven't been prescribed anything stronger than a T3 but can't imagine anything that relaxes muscles to that extent could truly be performance enhancing. Never took OxyContin or any drugs like that so I have no idea. It's illegal that's all I know.
August 23, 20177 yr comment_285600 Painkillers in the NFL: http://thelab.bleacherreport.com/nfl-toradol-use-players-survey/
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