Posted January 19, 20178 yr comment_243650 This is something I had just been wondering considering that so many members have kind of downplayed the vets this season. In my opinion Schief still plays really well and has earned the A. I don't really consider him a Vet because it still feels like yesterday that he started his first full season. But I think the big question is how long does a player have to be on the team to be considered a vet? But what do you guys think? do you think he's a Veteran now?
January 19, 20178 yr Author comment_243662 so they have to be a certain age to be considered a veteran
January 19, 20178 yr Author comment_243665 whoops I posted in the wrong thread Edited January 19, 20178 yr by iHeart
January 19, 20178 yr comment_243670 I'd say so. Scheif still has some upside to his game. He hasn't reached his prime. I'd say a player in their prime is a vet.
January 19, 20178 yr comment_243732 The term is meaningless apart from its technical definition (if a player is not a rookie they are a vet) so I'm not sure what your goal is in determining who is a vet and who isn't.
January 19, 20178 yr comment_243772 If 26 or 27 is a vet, Laine will be in the NHL for 8 or 9 years before he is a vet. To me, if you have played the majority of your 3 year ELC in the NHL, you are a vet, 4 years at tops....also depends whether you spent much time in the AHL. Edited January 20, 20178 yr by Ducky
January 20, 20178 yr comment_243857 On 1/19/2017 at 10:16 AM, Atomic said: The term is meaningless apart from its technical definition (if a player is not a rookie they are a vet) so I'm not sure what your goal is in determining who is a vet and who isn't. Not in the sense of useful experience, developed talent, demonstrated maturity, honed leadership, etc.
January 20, 20178 yr comment_243902 1 hour ago, HardCoreBlue said: Not in the sense of useful experience, developed talent, demonstrated maturity, honed leadership, etc. You're never going to be able to define when a player has those qualities by age or number of games played... it's different from player to player. Might as well ask what age a player becomes a leader. And by your definition I would almost certainly say that yes, Schiefele is a vet. Edited January 20, 20178 yr by Atomic
January 20, 20178 yr comment_243905 Really don't think Scheif would be considered a vet, he just kind of came in to his own last year, he still has some upside, I think i'd consider a vet a guy like Wheeler, Little, Buff, they are what they are and there really is no more upside for them, they are a known commodity, Scheif? He still has some room to grow i think. Vet? Hard to say, depends what you mean by Vet, but.. IMO a veteran player is what he is and there is very little to no more upside to that player, Is that Scheif? I don't think so.
January 20, 20178 yr comment_243914 10 minutes ago, Atomic said: You're never going to be able to define when a player has those qualities by age or number of games played... it's different from player to player. Might as well ask what age a player becomes a leader. And by your definition I would almost certainly say that yes, Schiefele is a vet. You're right, it will vary from player to player. But if you look at things longitudinal, controlling for certain variables (e.g., age and number of games played), you'll see trends that would help one determine the characteristics of what a veteran means. Not perfect, but something to help us understand the differences between a rookie and a vet.
January 20, 20178 yr comment_243916 1 minute ago, HardCoreBlue said: You're right, it will vary from player to player. But if you look at things longitudinal, controlling for certain variables (e.g., age and number of games played), you'll see trends that would help one determine the characteristics of what a veteran means. Not perfect, but something to help us understand the differences between a rookie and a vet. That's a little too hand-wavey for me. I expect a fully collated report on my desk by next Tuesday
January 20, 20178 yr comment_243917 1 minute ago, Atomic said: That's a little too hand-wavey for me. I expect a fully collated report on my desk by next Tuesday Weird, I get that a lot.
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