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Yup

Yeah, that was bad on Helle’s part. Really uncharacteristic this year, but definitely should’ve had two of those and their guy stops a breakaway on Ehlers in overtime and Helle unable to match on the two on one. That said, Nik Ehlers could’ve helped him out there… He is not a good finisher on breakaways.

Fuc3

Agree shouldn’t have been that easy to gain zone entry. Good shot, yup. But from well out. Definitely surprised to see it go in. Reminded me a lot of the goals that went in against the Avs in the playoffs.

Helle certainly needed to have that

There’s been a disturbing trend recently of giving up goals late in the period and game. not a winning formula.

Perfetti having a night

Is Miller a healthy scratch? wtf?

Those are brutal goals to give up at the end of the period. Just ******* brutal. Stanley just so g-d slow. He is too slow for the NHL.

This is 100% true. And it is one of MOS’ most in enduring, abject failures as a coach. His absolutely incredibly idiotic, stubborn insistence to keep his starters in when we’re up 20 points. Losing absolutely critical reps for the guy behind him. then it absolutely bites you in the ass in the most critical game of the year when your starter gets hurt like tonight, or just doesn’t have his game. So ******* stupid.

I think you are overreacting. It is upsetting, for sure. And the coach needs to take his share of accountability for what happened today. Just as does Zach. Maybe it’s fair to say there’s something about this particular combination of coaches and core players that seems to have trouble Executing in the big games? Too obvious? 🙂 At the end of the day O’Shea is still one of the most successful coaches in the history of the franchise and put us in the position to win the whole thing five times in a row… You don’t fire that type of coach. Not when he still getting you to the dance… But some adjustments need to be made. obviously one of his great strengths is he is a culture guy… I just don’t know if he’s much of a strategy guy. Their strategy guy, Dinwiddie, out strategied whoever our strategy guys are. Again, I don’t think that is MOS‘s skill set… But it’s on him to find guys who compete with a guy like Dinwiddie. Keep in mind too MOS has repeatedly, repeatedly, repeatedly said that he is 110% a Zach guy and has no plans to move on from him… So if you have issues with Zach then you have issues with MOS. Or you should.

No, the players have to take accountability for sure. But It is a shared accountability with the coaching staff. Why would the coaching staff get a complete free pass on a performance like this? again, I am not arguing that it’s not on the players but this is not an either/or occasion it’s a both/and.

Well, he is the head coach of this team. A team that has now lost three straight times in the big game. And since many people, probably including you and me, are willing to give him credit when the team does well, it’s presumably both fair and consistent for him to face some scrutiny and accountability when the team fails, don’t you think?

I think in general you would have to acknowledge we got out coached. I mean, O’Shea sets the culture… But what’s he actually doing in the game? whatever they did at halftime was clearly vastly superior to whatever we did. And, yeah, I was stunned when the back up went in and we had him throwing from down near the 25 yard line rather than giving it to Brady!

Remind me what you are referencing here. What would video have demonstrated that would’ve caused the loss?